Wizard Wednesday Transcription, 2021-07-28

Wizard Wednesday Episode 3

=

Elf: [00:00:00] Cool. Looks like we've got a pretty big crowd this time. I think the, the word of forgotten runes is spreading. Um, yeah, let's get started. So, um, as always, this is Elf and Dotta channeling in from the quantum downs. Um, Dotta, I'm gonna let you, uh, start what's on your checklist for

Dotta: today. Sure. So let's start with the Book of Lore.

So we've made some good development there. Uh, you know, our contracts Alpha are live on ring. We've also started the web ui, so shout out to, uh, Niki, who's been helping with Deb there. Also shout out to TV who's also been helping, um, improve the map. We still have some details that we need to like figure that out.

Um, but yeah, we're doing dev there. You know, there's actually quite a lot of web development to be done on Forgotten rooms.com in particular for. Yeah, the book of lore and there's a handful of other things coming up. Souls being the most obvious one. Um, so if you are a React developer or if you know someone, uh, yeah, I'd love to talk to you.

I mean, those two guys, Niki and TV have helped a lot, but we could probably use one other person who's good, especially if you have maybe a little bit of [00:01:00] design sense, hopefully better than mine. Um, and you know, we do have like maybe a small budget available, uh, pending on the right candidate, but hopefully it's a wizard and we can.

Kinda like working out. So the book of law is, is coming regard. What, you know, even if it's only just me, I'll, the book of law happened, but if there's anybody else who wants to hop in,

Elf: we could use another dev. Awesome. Yeah. And you know, for anyone who is new who doesn't know what the book of law is, it's a very special feature coming soon to forgotten ruins.

Basically what it's gonna be is a book on our website where any wizard holder can, um, write lore or contribute lore, artwork, writing poems, whatever. Uh, you contribute law to your own wizard. And, um, the basic idea is that after, hopefully a couple months, couple of years, whatever, we're gonna have this giant, beautiful digital compendium of history of all of our wizards in, in our collection.

Um, so yeah, I think it's gonna be amazing. And, and, and you know, you know, to that, okay, I've [00:02:00] had a lot of community members DMing me and Dota showing us the Lord that they've been writing and, and one big question we always get is like, How is this gonna fit into the, um, the official Lord, the official meta-narrative?

Can I write about that? Mm-hmm. How are you guys gonna reconcile these two things? Here's my answer. So, behind the scenes, yes, I am writing the meta narrative. I am writing the official lore of, of the entire world. Um, the best thing wizard holders can do now is just focus on lore for the wizards. You own.

Don't, don't worry too much about the grand narrative, the, the overall world more because it. What's gonna happen is once we start collecting all of this information in the book of lore, I'm gonna be able to use this. I'm gonna be able to look at all of your wizards and sort of have that shape the meta narrative.

Uh, because I want this to be a sort of decentralized lore building project. This is very experimental. Who knows how it's gonna turn out? But so far it's been freaking awesome. And so what [00:03:00] I mean by official cannon meta narrative is like, this is the sort of thing that's gonna actually show up in animated shorts.

It's gonna show up in the comic book, it's gonna show up in video games and, and like more, um, well, I guess bigger media expressions, let's just put it that way. Um, So, so, yeah, so I, it's just I'm really waiting on the book of Lord to get shaped before I like, start incorporating everybody else's lore into the meta narrative.

Um, this'll just be like a nice place to like gather it all. I can flip to anyone's page, look at what they've written, see if it fits in the meta narrative, you know, if it doesn't, that's okay. If it does, great, um, this is, you know, it's, it's gonna be a very loose, decentralized way of building lore. You wanna say anything Doda?

Dotta: Yeah, I think it's just like, yeah, don't stress about, um, walking outside of the nerd. I think of it as a little bit, so much we were talking like jy from the horse in particular this week. And um, you know, when [00:04:00] I think about, for example, Harry Potter and, um, Like, um, like fan fiction there, you know, maybe there's, uh, like I think one of the more popular fan fiction, Harry Potter is this like, love story between Harry Draco and they sort of like get together as a couple and like, okay, fine, that's not part of the cannon, but it's still sort of like part of the lore and part of the world.

And um, and I think that. You shouldn't stress too much about like, um, going outside at a lore so much as just like, I, I think that almost everyone that I've seen has pretty good taste in what this world can be and the, the official canon will be revealed in time. Yep.

Elf: Yep. Yeah, and, and you know, just like, like I said last week, um, In the short term, I'm, I'm not gonna release like, some big like, silmaril type blog post that just outlines all the, all the, the official lore of, of forgotten rooms.

That's, that's the least interesting way to do it. Um, you know, one of the, the guiding principles of this entire project has been, [00:05:00] Delivering the information in, in such a way that it's still mysterious, that you still have to dig for the Easter eggs. Um, you still have to like, put it all together. It's, it's not just spelled out for you.

And so we've got tons of really fun ways that we're gonna be delivering this information, whether it's through animation or comics or any other crazy media expression. Um, uh, speaking of animation, um, we can't say too many solid details yet, but we've been having unbelievably exciting meetings. With partners, um, who are very interested in this project.

And let me just say this, it is very likely we are going to get some animated content, let's just put it that way. Um, not in, not in the next month or so, cuz animation takes forever, but it looks like it's definitely gonna happen.

Dotta: Yeah.

Elf: With Hey, hey Doty, you're, you're section Doty. You're cutting up really bad. Hello? Yeah, we can hear [00:06:00] you, but it's cutting up really bad. Robo Doda. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, so we'll, we'll see if we can get him back. Uh oh. Here, here he is. Is that better? You think? Doda? Yeah. Is that better for you? I think so. Yes.

Okay. We'll try this.

Dotta: Um, okay, good. So the, the thing that I was saying here is that, um, yeah, you know, getting a full show is like very tricky. Um, maybe we could talk like a little bit to that process. If it's interesting, you know, if you, for example, go to. Um, if you try to sell a show directly, it's ex like really involved.

And if you don't have a big enough audience and you don't have enough demand, then you actually end up having to give up more than you would want to. It can take a really long time. Um, and so one of the things that we're trying to do is build up to that. And so one of the first ways that we're gonna do is, uh, do shorts at first.

And so we've had some really promising meetings really with like our first choice, honestly. Um, like our, our first choice of animation studio is, Very [00:07:00] optimistic on this kind of project, so we're very excited about it. We can't name names cuz nothing's been signed, but we're working on it.

Elf: Yeah, this studio is, they, they, they're so good.

They, they honest, they do a lot of shows that you probably already know very, um, adult animation shows, not kitty stuff. So it's gonna look freaking awesome I think. Um. So yeah, if, if we, if you guys have any questions about that later in the ama, we're happy to answer. Um, but okay. As far as other bullet points on my list, um, okay, here's another fun thing.

So actually after this, this, uh, wizard Wednesday today, um, I might even have to leave early because we are going to go look at a gallery. Uh, here in Venice Beach in Los Angeles because we want to do a, uh, a forgotten rooms gallery opening where we put the wizards on the walls. Um, we don't have a date for that yet, that's why we're going to meet.

But if you live in Los Angeles, uh, please come and join us. This will be basically our first I r l uh, forgotten Rooms Meetup. [00:08:00] Um, so as soon as we get more solid information on that, we will of course let you all know. Uh, Doda, what else you got?

Dotta: Cool. Uh, uh, yeah, other stuff we have is the game. So I met with a potential, uh, game partner yesterday.

Um, again similar to the show and that no ink is on paper yet, but we're like aiming fairly high in terms of who's our gaming partner. So, um, we've talked about this before. Elf and I have indie video games in the past, and they did like, well, you know, they maybe made like, let's say a million dollars, which is pretty good for indie, but not so like, not huge, it's just us.

Um, and so we also recognize it's a lot of work to do it well and there's a lot of other people kind of trying to do this metaverse space. So we're looking to partner with, um, this particular, uh, publisher developer. Who is one in particular that we're talking to that's very like, um, kind of bullish on us.

They have like, um, console games at like retail stores like Target for example. So it's, again, it's not just like an idio [00:09:00] studio. They kind of have distribution as well as devs. And, um, and we're like all kind of meeting and talking about this idea of doing like a forgotten ruins, wizards, metaverse. Um, and it's like extremely promising, really, really exciting.

Um, but you know, Still in the toxic phase, but, um, I'm, I'm like very excited about this idea that like, Um, there's a wizard, like the map, the map, something that we can walk around with and own property and go on quests and, um, like earn treasures and spells and hang out with friends. And so, um, you know, we're continuing to work on that.

Elf: Yep, yep. It's looking very cool. Um, and yeah, I mean, so that would be like, I guess the, the, the quote unquote official forgotten ruins game. But we are also looking to put wizards in other metaverses, um, Like I said, last Wizard Wednesday, I'm still working on the turnarounds so that everybody can actually walk around.

Um, and I think I coupled that announcement with, uh, Uh, that I'm, that I'm quitting [00:10:00] my day job, which, um, is still happening. Um, Woohoo. Yeah, this is actually my last week at my day job. So Friday is my official last day. So glad. So, yeah. I mean, look, the most beautiful thing, ab full-time wizards exactly, this, this means an extra 40 freaking hours a week that can be devoted to wizards.

You know, it's like I could have had these turnarounds done by now if, if I didn't have, if I had this extra 40 hours. So this is gonna be huge for wizards to be honest. Um, Yeah. And, um, let's see what else I got on

Dotta: my list. I think Yeah, and the, and the animation. The animation like also can be used for derivative works, right?

We've seen such super fun, um, uh, derivative works this week. We can talk about that, do the shout, talk about the good mornings. But before I get there, Um, I wanna talk about the commercial ip. I also had, um, some moral talks with our lawyers. They're still working on the paperwork. Um, as we talked about this last week, I won't spend a lot of time on it.

I think what we're going for with commercial rights is gonna be essentially, Um, like, like very [00:11:00] broad com rights to any wizards that you own up to, um, a million dollars and then some realty after that, that comes back to the creators and which gets split with the creators in the community. Um, and so the, the idea there is that like basically everyone in this room who wants to do a commercial work, and it's not only with your.

The pixels of your wizard, n f T, but it's a, it's really like a, a commercial, a right to, to commercialize the character. Yep. Right. That's a lot deeper than just the pixels. Like if you want to like do shoes or a stuffy or a beer or whatever with the wizards that you own, you're like free to do that. And you know, if you can do, someone wants to do like Christmas ornaments and he's like, oh, is that within your rights?

And I'm like, For sure. Like you can make up to a million dollars without paying any royalties on your Christmas ornaments or whatever. And I think the million dollar cap is really just to make sure that we are getting like big players to the table, right? We wouldn't want someone to, for example, buy a hundred wizards and try to do a show.

Without kind of including us or giving any sort of kickbacks to the community. So I think pretty good balance. We're gonna try to make it simple [00:12:00] enough that we could fit it in like a single tweet. Um, and, but like, yeah, we're super excited about that. Hopefully that once we have that finalized, it'll kick off like collaborators, um, with size who feel that they can be like they, that we've made like a firm commitment in terms of what those rights are.

Elf: Yep. Yep. And you know, just to that it, you know, this is what is so interesting to me about this idea of decentralized intellectual property rights. Cuz it's like, you know, you could take your wizard and let's say you made a stuff to animal with it and made 500 grand on it. That would be really difficult to do in a vacuum all alone.

But you've got a huge community with 10,000 other wizards that is also trying to build up the brand. And now suddenly you've, you're, you've got a stuffed animal character that also has a show, and has a comic book and has a whole community and you know, it's just gonna boost your individual project that much more.

And so we all just, we all just help each other, you know, it's, it's a beautiful thing. Um, So I'm, yeah, I'm really, I'm really excited about that. Speak of help

Dotta: each other. We've got an uprising in our race. Yeah. [00:13:00] So,

Elf: yeah, let, let me, let me get to that up uprising at the end of this. Piece. Um, so usually I wanna open with cult member shout outs.

Um, so let, let me rec go ahead and recognize some wizards who have made significant contributions. Um, so, uh, uh, oh, you did an awesome, uh, Kalu illustration, uh, forager. You did a beautiful, good morning, uh, animation. Um, and then of course, tad Major has been doing some awesome animations. As usual. Uh, so has, uh, wise Sam the Viper.

I've seen a few animations with him. Um, Aaron Air, I believe that's how I pronounce your name. Uh, you've done some, you did a great animation, um, mind btc awesome animation, um, YM, crypto and Shark Child. You guys did a beautiful affinity infographic that has been shared around a lot. S super great. It was great information, and it was well delivered on a beautiful piece of work.

I loved it. Um, If

Dotta: anyone [00:14:00] of the speakers wanna share these tweets up in the stage, uh, feel free. I, I can't track 'em down this second. So,

Elf: yeah. And then, uh, a, a funny thing happened with, uh, this, this team called Wiz of Marketing or Wizard of Marketing. It looks like some Oh yeah. Group of some marketing team.

They've got like 30,000 followers on Twitter. They all, it looks like the whole team bought wizards and is now just like using our wizards to brand themselves, which I think is freaking hilarious. Love it. Um, yeah. So good on those guys if you're in the crowd. Awesome. Okay, but speaking of groups of people, okay, this is to me one of the most fascinating things that has happened yet, and I'm talking about of course, the cobalt hoard.

Um, I've got a lot to say about it, but Doda, go ahead.

Dotta: Oh, I, I don't have a lot to

Elf: say about it. Go for it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, so this, it's just fascinating to me on so many levels, the Cobolt hoard, um, you know, it's, it's just like, it, it, it speaks to the, the underlying. [00:15:00] Philosophy behind all the forgotten roots.

Okay. It, it's, my thesis has been, okay, this is an NFT project. This is not a, this is not just like another crypto token. This is not a Dogecoin, this is not a Bitcoin where you just, like, you look at all the numbers, the supply cap and the, the, the rate at which new coins enter the market and blah, blah, blah.

You put that on a spreadsheet, each of the numbers, and boom, you've got the value of the token. You know, that's a math problem. That's what Dogecoin, that's what Bitcoin, that's why, I don't know. Cardon and Shane Link, Gar, they're, they're math problems. And they're great for what they are. I'm not trying to downplay what they are.

They, they're great, but that's not this, this is a non fungible token project. These are NFTs, these are not meant to just be crunched by rarity numbers and, and, but I love the Gentile's Wizard guide. It's great. I. But NFTs are beyond that. NFTs are character building. They're, they're lore, they're poems, they're art, they're cobalt hoards.

And so, like, what was so fascinating about it is suddenly somebody made this group with only cobalts that, that are not even like that. [00:16:00] And now everybody's like, I wanna fobo fomo into cobalts. And, and the, the, the significance of cobalts just went up because of this fun thing that the community did. And this is exactly what I'm talking about.

This is what the project is all about. So now like, You know, other people can start hoards or other people can start these little uprisings and offshoots and Go

Dotta: ahead Deda. Yeah. And what's great about it too is it's like, it's this group within the group and this like sense of belonging, right? The group identity of the, the horde is, you know, I think there's that tweet, um, there's the tweet by flash step where he says, you know, coordination, limited ideas, few laziness, yes, but the horn will prevail and look, so there's already group identity.

I have, um, some friends, so I, I, I'm friends with, uh, crypto and Dini who's in the chat, and he was just like, he was saying what was going on with the Cobalts, and he was like, oh, I want to, I wanna get one. And I, he got one. And then as soon as he got one, the chat blew up. Like the other cobalts were like, welcome to the club.

Like they're this super welcoming group. They were like so thrilled to have another [00:17:00] member. And so now even when we talk about, so one, I think that like the sense of belonging is like we're trying to do with wizards in general, but like, uh, even more intensely. And then two, even when we talk about like the metaverse is, you know, one of the things that is like the people will talk about, oh, we want to, you know, give wizards their own guild or something.

And with, with kind of the wizards metaverse, we're talking about not even having like wizards. Wizards having their own private properties. But like the Horde, for example, the Cobalt hoard is now like, every time it talks about, we're like, oh, we need to have like a sub club that's just for cobalts, right?

Like they have like the Cobalt Tavern or something, you know, uh, the H or something. And so, yeah. Um, yeah, I think even just by kind of like coming together as a community, Well, you create a sub-community within Wizards and then, you know, the NFTs kind of reflect that. Yeah.

Elf: It's, it's just so great. I love seeing that stuff.

Like I, you know, I, I tell Donna all the time, the, the cult, you guys just blow my mind every day with the stuff that you do and we are just getting started and like, You know, the whole point of this project is to empower [00:18:00] creators, to ignite your imaginations, and you guys are just like delivering in spades.

So I, I love it and I can't wait to see what else is coming. Um, so yeah. And so, okay. I've got a few other things on my checklist, but let's, let's like open it up to the community if anybody wants to say something. Um, just raise your hand. Um,

Dotta: Yeah, I've got a couple other things too, but let's, let's have a community chat. Yeah. I'm not seeing any raised hands. Um,

Elf: yeah, if nobody wants to say anything, we can, we can move on.

Um, okay. Yeah, do what else you got?

Dotta: So, okay. Good morning generator. Uh, loved seeing everyone. Tell each other a good morning because I think that helps you have a good day. And that's, I love it. Um, we want to get, um, the attention Ofer and McKen, um, you know, like we would love to have. Like Gandolph be a wizard.

Um, like [00:19:00] how great would it be if we could sort of get his attention to have him change his profile, pick to a wizard for a day, you know? Yep. Um, and so that's something that we've tried some kind of back channels, haven't necessarily had a ton of success there, but one of the things that we wanna do, I think like tomorrow morning is like, we'll send out a formal tweet being like, oh, like Sir Ian McConnell, we'd love to like, offer you this wizard.

We've got a wizard that we'll offer to him. Uh, in a tweet, we can coordinate this with, uh, in Discord as well. Um, but we'll, we'll send a tweet where we at, mention him and say, good morning with the wizard that we're giving him. And then it would be just great if like, every wizard who sees it like replies to that tweet with like a good morning, right?

So like, I don't think that we wanna like, Uh, I don't think that we want to like, spam him over a longer period of time, but if we just had like a raid, like a one day raid and everyone replies with a picture of their wizards, I think that, that we might get his attention and we'll, you know, we'll go from there.

Yeah. So tomorrow morning be on the lookout for the discord. In the discord. We'll try to coordinate that. To, uh, tell Ian Mckalen, [00:20:00] uh, good morning.

Elf: Yeah, we just wanna tell him good morning. And, um, you know, I, I, I'd like to say another piece about this, this whole operation. So, um, we published that, um, quiz on our Twitter and, um, you know, we, We actually have a couple different people running our Twitter account, and so somebody misspelled Gandalf's name.

It's,

Dotta: it's mostly you. It's mostly you. Right. But we have other people.

Elf: But, but that wasn't me who did that? Who's misspelled Gandalf's name. So I just, I just wanna, I just wanna assure the cult that we have, let's just say we, we dealt a punishment, uh, equal to the crime. We, um, strip this person naked, we chain them to a rock, and every morning an eagle comes and eats out their liver.

So I thought that was a finishing fitting punishment for, um, the crime. Um, so just rest assured that'll never happen again unless they want their livers eaten out. Yeah, yeah. Ied

Dotta: myself for a good six hours and I interrupted you guys talking about, uh, costing, so that's

Elf: fair. Yeah, exactly. [00:21:00] Yep. Um, sorry.

Yeah, no, it's all right. Um, cool. So yeah, so yeah, let's definitely, let's definitely all wish, uh, Ian Macallan a good morning tomorrow and, um, I'm gonna try to again, to uh, uh, basically assume, uh, a new role. Um, he was Gandolph, but now he's going to do forgotten Reigns Wizard. Um, okay, next thing on my list, uh, s stickers.

Um, I actually have.

Dotta: Hi. Hey, Margaret. What's up? Yeah, sorry. Um, I raised my hand when you wanted to hear from the community and then by the time Oh, great. And by the time it connected, I think you had moved on to something else. So there's a little bit of lag time when somebody is invited as a speaker on, on speaker.

Sure. Uh, yeah, I just wanted people to know that if they commissioned poems from me, I want to encourage them that they have the right to use those poems in the book of lore. They have the right to, you know, make derivatives with those poems, put them on, on their cool. Uh, Kind of [00:22:00] drawings or pixel art or whatever it is they're doing within the, the rights, uh, afforded by, by the, uh, N F T contract.

I just want people to know that when, when I write a poem for you, you can do with it what you want. And I would be so excited to see, to see some of the poems I've written wizards in the book of lore. Um, so that's be all I absolutely say. Um, it's just such an exciting thing. I can't wait to see the book of lore because you guys are just so creative and so good at Macon lore.

Uh, yeah. So that's basically all I needed to say.

Elf: So glad you said that. Yes. And I, and I meant to give you a shout out in the, in the shout outs earlier. Yeah. Margaret is constantly writing poems for our cult. Um, they're amazing and I'm so glad to have her as our official Bard and spell singer. So, um, yeah, before I move on, does it, does anybody else have anything to say?

Dotta: Yeah. Hi Ron.

Elf: My question was actually also

Dotta: around stickers because, um, Yeah, so kind of off off topic,

Elf: but I'm [00:23:00] really active on the events, you know, both

Dotta: online and offline. And as probably some of you know, there will bebo

Elf: like blockchain week in October, and

Dotta: I would love to maybe do something creative

Elf: there to contribute on the growth side of the community, the visitor community, right?

Maybe stickers here and there, or maybe organize something or maybe there will be some

Dotta: folks and Lisbon we can also meet up and do something cool for the Wizards

Elf: brand. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. Yeah. When, when, when did you say that was?

Dotta: Yeah. It, it, as far as I remember, uh, October

Elf: 20th. We'll start. Okay.

Something like that. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so we want to have stickers ready, a s a P, um, uh, but yeah, so I, I think you guys have been seeing my posts. I've been hashtagging them wizards in the hood. Um, that has just been me, uh, stickering up my neighborhood. Um, I ordered this first, uh, proof of stickers cuz I just wanted to color correct them.

And I'm so glad I did because I definitely need to increase the [00:24:00] contrast on some of these before we release them officially. Um, but yeah, so, you know, on the one hand they're just stickers. On the other hand they mean a lot. And here, here's sort of my thoughts into going, going into these stickers. So like, you know, first of all, a lot of people see stickers as like a marketing operation, which, which they are.

And so common wisdom in marketing is like, yeah, you put your image out there, but you also need to put like your website or, or, or, or just tell people what they are. You can't just put an image cuz then nobody's gonna know what it's. But I would like to buck that common wisdom and here's why. So you think about like what Shepherd Ferry did for the beginning of his career.

He was putting that insane obey Andre the giant sticker. Everywhere he went, nobody knew what the hell that was, but he put it everywhere. And that image just was burned into people's brains. And for years, nobody knew what that was cuz there's no website, there's no way for anyone to look it up. It was just this weird on the tray, the giant face.

But as he [00:25:00] got bigger, as his brand became well known, Then everybody, they, they had this amazing moment where they were like, oh my God, I've seen that around. I saw that two years ago. I've seen that in the bathroom. I've seen that in the alley. It's like this ama amazing like light bulb moment where you suddenly connect with something very strange and mysterious that you saw years ago.

And so that's what I'm trying to do with Wizards, because again, that's like the guiding philosophy. Mystery. Don't spell anything out. We want to just like peek people's curiosities. And so these wizards are gonna, I'm not gonna put a website on them, I'm not gonna put text on them. I mean, I might have one that has a text version, but, but the far more interesting ones are just straight up wizards.

And I wanna see wizards everywhere. Yeah. And I just wanna

Dotta: like, like repeated exposure to the image over and over and over again. Yep. Until you like have to find out

Elf: what it's, yep, yep, yep. Exactly. Um, and, and then the other thing that I've learned with these is wizards are stronger as a cult and not as individuals.

And so what I mean is like, [00:26:00] like when we were first designing these stickers, I was like, well, gee, which one do I use? And then I was like, okay, let me do a sticker pack because. Then I can, I can fit like maybe 12 wizards on an, on an entire sheet. But then as I'm like sticking them around, I find that it's like a much stronger statement.

If I stick like two or three together instead of just one, like e each of these operations means something different. But like when you see wizards together, that means something so much more significant than when you see one alone. And so that just like reinforces the whole philosophy behind the Wizard's cult.

It's like we're in this together, we, we mean so much more when we're together. Um, and so that's, that's sort of what I love about these stickers and like, I know it's just stickers, but, but I think there's like really deep meaning behind what they are. You know, you, you wanna see the wizards out in the world.

Um, and so, yeah. So all this is say we're gonna have these available and I can't see what, what can't wait to see what you guys do with them.

Dotta: Yeah. I'm quite excited to get the those out. That's gonna be really fun. [00:27:00]

Elf: Yep. Um, So another thing, uh, yeah, go for it. Yep.

Dotta: Yeah. So, um, Matt Suzuki, uh, aka a major Dev of the Quantum Downs.

One of the things that you did this week that I super appreciated, above and beyond what you normally do is someone, someone came in yesterday or Monday and they were like, what's the latest with wizards? And you listed. Like 10 things. You're like, oh, somebody used Genie to sweep the floor. Someone did this.

Like this artwork went out and there there was like 10 things that happened and it was just one day. Like, and it is crazy to me that like for example, like we just gave a shout out about, um, the Affinity graphic. And it's crazy to me that that was published like. Between the last wizards Wednesday and today.

There's just so much going on every single day and it's impossible to keep up with. Um, and so I think it'd be really cool if there was somebody in the community, um, who wanted to kind of like maintain the Daily Wizard, um, which maybe is just like a paragraph like that, that they're just kind of.[00:28:00]

Watching in the community, looking at the fan art, looking at sort of what's happening, the, the, the noise and could, could kind of record that somewhere, either if that's like on some blog post or uh, just an announcement channel or something. I think it'd be good for it to be on the web outside of our discord.

But yeah, it's an idea that I'm thinking about trying to do a better job organizing. Um, and if there's anybody that you know that strikes your fancy and that's something you'd wanna like, take on, reach out to me in Discord and we'll, we'll talk about it.

Yeah. Yep.

Elf: It was super awesome.

Dotta: Yeah, that sounds great. I think, um, I, crypto Cow was really good at also, um, at keeping track of what's going on too. Um, so I think, uh, if he's, if he's up to it, I think, you know, he pops him online as well. Um, but I think I'd be up for it well too, so we can, maybe we get like, maybe it'll just part, be part of like, um, you know, one of the guilds.

Uh, maybe we can just get like a group of people, cuz you know, maybe not everybody can do it every single day. But, um, we can have, you know, couple people just kinda like, you know, gather up and then, you know, maybe to just, you know, post what they have together and then just publish it at once. That sounds pretty interesting.

Sure. That's a cool idea. [00:29:00] Yeah.

Elf: Love it. Um, yeah. And then one other interesting thing that happened this week was the, uh, storyboards, um, that I posted, I think it was last Friday. Um, we definitely wanna do more stuff like that. In fact, I, I just sent off a new story to our storyboarder. Um, you know, I, I just, I, I love it.

It's, uh, You know, it's, it's just another media expression. It's, it's, um, it's, uh, delivering more information about the world lore in a very entertaining and interesting way. Um, somebody asked me how I choose the Wizards that I'm gonna write about, and to be honest with you, it's, it's pretty much random.

Um, I'm not trying to play favorites with anyone. Um, you know, I, I think I did say on the very first Wizard Wednesday, like, the more you guys like, use your wizards as, as your PFPs, and the more you. Write Laura about them, then they, they just like, they get my attention. They, they stick in my brain. And that's one way, like they can work themselves into these bigger stories.

Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, I, I I want to use as [00:30:00] many wizards as possible. I, you know, the goal is to like, use all 10,000, to be honest. Um, eventually, but, and that may take years. But yeah, I definitely wanna put every single wizard in into these well, and I can't see what, what can't wait to see what you guys do with them.

Dotta: Yeah, I'm kinda excited to get the those out. That's gonna be really fun.

Elf: Yep. Um, so another thing, uh, yeah,

Dotta: go for it. Yep. Yeah. So, um, mat Suzuki, uh, aka a major Devon of the Quantum Downs, one of the things that you did this week that I super appreciated, above and beyond what you normally do is someone, someone came in yesterday or Monday and they were like, what's the latest with wizards?

And you listed, fuck. Like 10 things. You're like, oh, somebody used Genie to sweep the floor. Someone did this. Like this artwork went out and there there was like 10 things that happened and it was just one day. Like, and it is crazy to me that like for example, like we just gave a shout out about, um, the Affinity graphic.

And it's crazy to me that that was published like. [00:31:00] Between the last wizards Wednesday and today. There's just so much going on every single day and it's impossible to keep up with. Um, and so I think it'd be really cool if there was somebody in the community, um, who wanted to kind of like maintain the Daily Wizard, um, which maybe is just like a paragraph like that, that they're just kind of.

Watching in the community, looking at the fan art, looking at sort of what's happening, the, the, the noise and could, could kind of record that somewhere, either if that's like on some blog post or uh, just an announcement channel or something. I think it'd be good for it to be on the web outside of our discord.

But yeah, it's an idea that I'm thinking about trying to do a better job organizing. Um, and if there's anybody that you know that strikes your fancy and that's something you'd wanna like, take on, reach out to me in Discord and we'll, we'll talk about it.

Elf: Yeah. Yep. It was super awesome. Yeah, that

Dotta: sounds great. I think, um, I, crypto Cow was really good at also, um, at keeping track of what's going on too. Um, so I think, uh, if he's, if he's up to it, I think, you know, he pops him online as well. Um, but I think I'd be up for it as well [00:32:00] too, so we can, maybe we get like, maybe it'll just part, be part of like, um, know one of the guilds, uh, maybe we can just get like a group of people, cuz you know, maybe not everybody can do it every single day.

But, um, we can have, you know, couple people who just kinda like, you know, gather up and then, you know, be able to just, you know, post what they have together and just publish it at once. That sounds pretty interesting. Sure. That's a cool idea. Yeah.

Elf: Love it. Um, yeah. And then one other interesting thing that happened this week was the, uh, storyboards, um, that I posted, I think it was last Friday.

Um, we definitely wanna do more stuff like that. In fact, I, I just sent off a new story to our storyboarder. Um, you know, I, I just, I, I love it. It's, uh, You know, it's, it's just another media expression. It's, it's, um, it's, uh, delivering more information about the world lore in a very entertaining and interesting way.

Um, somebody asked me how I choose the Wizards that I'm gonna write about, and to be honest with you, it's, it's pretty much random. Um, I'm not trying to play favorites with anyone. Um, you know, I, I think I did say on the [00:33:00] very first Wizard Wednesday, like, the more you guys like, use your wizards as, as your PFPs, and the more you.

Write Laura about them, then they, they just like, they get my attention. They, they stick in my brain. And that's one way, like they can work themselves into these bigger stories. Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, I, I I want to use as many wizards as possible. I, you know, the goal is to like, use all 10,000, to be honest.

Um, eventually, but, and that may take years. But yeah, I definitely wanna put every single wizard in into these other things. Well,

Dotta: ed can probably have less than 10,000 cause we are gonna have the burning happening unless you wanna do just a short five minute episode of going, going through yelling and that be wizard story next week.

Same channel.

Elf: No, absolutely. You're absolutely right. Um, yeah, there, yeah. We will only have a, we won't have some wizards after the burning, but, um, But, you know, e even the burning itself will, uh, it, it will need its own [00:34:00] story, so. Oh, definitely. Yep. Yep. Um, yeah, so I think that's all on my list. Oto, you got anything

Dotta: else?

Yeah, I mean, I think that's all on my list as well, so yeah. I'm, uh, happy to open it up. Yeah, I had a question about the burning actually. Sure, sure. Uh, I don't know how much you can reveal, but I want him to know. Is every wizard going to be eligible to be burned? Like hypothetically if someone wanted to burn, like, not that anyone would do this, but burn the Dodo Wizard or um, you know, the Sacred Key Master or something crazy like that.

Like what, is there any wizard that's gonna be like ineligible to be burned in the first place? Or is it free for all? Cool. Great. Uh, there's no question. Yeah, there's none that are ineligible. Uh, if someone, you know, if Red decides he wants to burn the dough to wizard, then that will play out. So I think it's really community participation in terms of how it goes.

There's no, there's no [00:35:00] prevented wizards.

Elf: Yeah. But however, I will say that number one, there is going to be a cap on the amount of wizards that can be burned. I'm not gonna tell you what the cap is. Yeah. So, so that's number one. And then number two, you know, and we'll spell all this out beforehand, but you should know that burning a wizard comes with significant risk.

Um, You know, you burn a wizard, you're gonna get something back. You may love what you get back and you may not love what you get back. So I hope that would incentivize you not to burn a really awesome wizard.

Dotta: Yeah, makes sense. I mean, there are some gamblers in the community though, so

Elf: you never know, right?

Totally. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Absolutely. And one

Dotta: other question on, on the burn too, since there is gonna be the cap, I'm wondering, like, I'm sure you've thought about this, but is there gonna be. Some mechanism in place to prevent any kind of like gas wars or something. Like if, if it's like a mad rush for everyone to burn their wizard, um, or is it, is it gonna be some sort of like, I don't know, some sort of cue system or [00:36:00] something?

Or, or, or a way to. Prevent, uh, gas force. Um, you know, I, I haven't specked it out yet. It's something that you, you know, you and I really should talk about it. It would be interesting, uh, to, to, to, to make sure that we're being thoughtful in that way. I mean, I think that I'm mostly concerned about the site, like crashing as much as like, uh, but I also want people like to not have, like gas that fails, for example.

Um, I have seen. Um, I have proposals actually for like fair launches. Um, some of the devs have been talking about this where there's a, there's a mechanism they're like kind of working on where you kind of, anybody who wants. You could, in this case, I don't know that we'll do it this way, but you could imagine the case where you're like, oh, I want like a burn.

I want to burn. And you do a transaction and you can do it at any time during 24 hours. And then there's sort of like a lottery system that then anyone who made it within the lottery can then, uh, burn within the next [00:37:00] 24 hours or something. But you know, I'm not necessarily. Committing to that. I've also seen people talk about, um, some people will like limit the gas price, the, the transaction, right?

Like there's like a max gas price, which I think is interesting. Um, I don't know. I'd be curious to hear kind of like what strategies people are doing, um, these last couple of months to, to prevent that part of it is really super difficult in just the way that Ethereum's designed and when you have a limited supply.

But, um, I'm sure there are things we can do to make it better. Yeah, makes sense. I mean, I, I've seen like, I feel like most of the recent drops have been kind of a mess with gas. Like anything that I've tried to, yeah, I, I just like give up after a few minutes trying to mint something cause people are putting like 1500 clay or whatever, like just crazy amounts of gas for any of these recent drops.

So, um, yeah, there, there must be some way around it, but it doesn't seem like anyone's figured it out recently at least. Yeah, cuz even with like, let's say there's a thousand wizards that are burnable. [00:38:00] I mean, Yeah, I guess it's like all 1000. If people try to burn all 1000 within the same two minutes, it's gonna be expensive.

Um, I had a suggestion for this, and it's not a technical one, it's a lower one. Um, yeah. So basically, Doing some research, which is well beyond me cuz I'm a flipp and writer. I'm not a coder, I'm not a blockchain expert. Um, do some research about, you know, what GWA is at the gas at, and then draft a bit of lore and maybe some cool graphics that are kind of, uh, Uh, in world tutorial, uh, for people for how to sort of fi the gas, um, to make that work.

Yeah. Uh, that would be a really good thing. I like that. Um, I work with a bunch of projects, um, and people are really willing to deal with like gas stuff or whatever kind of finicky things that the blockchain is doing if you sort of communicate clearly, teach people how, and manage expectations. So, so that's [00:39:00] basically where I'm coming.

That's good advice. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I, I was wondering like maybe two questions if there would be like other burnings of sorts or, because there was different witch trials of the past where there was drownings and there was burnings and stonings, and we have water wizards, we have geo mancy wizards. Um, so I was wondering, one, will fire wizards be, have a better chance faring against burns and whether it be future.

Burns, or however you wanna call it, where there's drownings and, you know, stuff like that. I think you'll have to like, wait and see how this burn plays out with regards to the, those sort of things. But, um, yeah, it's future, future burns. I'm not, I I think it'll be a solemn occasion, so I'm not like looking forward to doing it more.

Elf: Yeah, no, it's, it's a, it's a really fun idea. Um, you know, just to like extrapolate further, is there gonna be an opportunity to resurrect one that you've burned? I don't know. I'm not committing to that at all, but I, I, it is a fun thought experiment. Um, so who [00:40:00] knows question or comments? Yep. Actually in terms of gas, like what about what Parallel did with their

Dotta: car drop reserved?

Then they went in back to avoid all the gas. So transactions happen. I'll look into it. I don't actually know actually how they did their drop, and that sounds awesome. Yep. I think, I think the way that they did is I think they actually pre minted everything and then they just kind of had everybody reserve their spot.

And then it was just kind of like, all right, when you're ready for it, you pay.

Elf: That's something.

Dotta: Yes. Okay, so there's two separate things. One would be parallels dropped, one would be a collab, uh, sorry, Zuki, you were saying that they, that you reserved it and then. I think, I think what they said, right? Yeah. I think they premed everything and then kind of like, you know, you, when you did a reservation, they kind of know randomized, like, you know what wallet would get, what?

Like [00:41:00] it whitelist your wallet and essentially give you. I, I forgot how exactly they worked it. I think they actually had, like the code that they, they had commented and then they commented the portions of it when you were ready to like min or something. It was really complicated when I took a quick, complete look at it, but I have to look at it again to really extrapolate what, what really happened.

I just, I think that what they did was they pre and then they did some, some, some very interesting, um, very interesting workarounds with the front end and back end to make it work, make it happen. I see. I'll look into it. And then yeah, in terms of collaboration, I think there's a lot of like folks on Twitter that want it to happen.

We, I think their project is amazing. Um, and I'm also a big, like, magic the gathering. Well, not compared to like big magic, the gathering people, but like I super enjoy it. Um, and, uh, yeah, talk to them. Yeah.

Elf: Well, okay. Yeah. So I actually talked to Callos Cals. Um, I, we had a little chat yesterday. Um, you know, both of us are sort of, we're we're interested in the idea of a collab.

We do not know what it would actually be. So I, I told Carlos that I would ask you guys, [00:42:00] um, if you guys have ideas of how that collaboration would work, then like, feel free to DM me. Is this supposed to be a card game Parallels is a, is a is a card game. Yes. We are obviously not that. Also like one of the issues was like, was like, he doesn't wanna put our wizards on his cards because it's just like a totally different universe.

And, and I agree with him. It's, there's no like real narrative reason for wizards to come into their universe, you know, unless we had to like write that all out. But even then, that can get sticky and messy. Um, so I don't know if, if you guys have ideas of how that collab could work, then just feel free to DM me or him rather than a collab.

Something I would really like to see is light. Not necessarily like a card

Dotta: game, but to make like, I don't know, some way that they could battle against each other and just like, I don't know, have the stats based on their

Elf: items or their armor

Dotta: or they're familiar and whatnot. Like I'm sure it

Elf: wouldn't take that much effort to, um, come up with something like that where they could kind of fight each other.

Interesting. Yeah. And I see this is [00:43:00] something that we'd be

Dotta: doing right away anyway. Like we would need, like, like if you think about the Witcher, they have like a whole world to use with monsters and everything as like, Siege weapons and stuff like that. So we would probably have to world build before we even think about anything serious like that.

Elf: I

Dotta: mean, yeah, that would be dope, man. Seeing these, like with Metaverse capabilities along with being able to do something like, you know, just say one person's, uh, like say a person with, uh, the staff with the blue orb that might be super effective against, you know, that type of deal. You know,

Elf: throw that in like that.

Yep. Super cool. Um, okay. I actually have to leave in like two minutes to go look at that gallery, um, that I mentioned earlier. Um, if Donna, if you want to continue for 10 more minutes, um yeah. Promote me, promote me

Dotta: to host and I'm happy to host. Yep.

Elf: Yep. Let me do that right now.

All okay. It looks like all I can do is do co-host, does that work? Yep. Okay, cool. Okay. I'm, uh, I'm actually gonna, [00:44:00] uh, bounce. Um, but Doda, don't forget to sign out in the proper way. Let's see if you can do it. Um, but yeah, I will. Okay. Awesome. All right. I'll see you guys later. Thank you.

Dotta: The power is mine.

Elf: Oh, okay. Okay. Hold on. I think, I think you have to, you have to demote me somehow. Oh, I don't know how I can leave without shutting this whole thing down. Well,

Dotta: sorry dude. The better sign off computer.

Elf: Okay. I'm just gonna mute it later, guys. All right.

Dotta: Yeah, I don't know. If there's any other way, I have a suggestion for the Okay. Parallel CoLab. What about if you guys did, let's, let's hear it joke cards, like how they did in that unhinged expansion of magic, where it's like they're cards that are never used in game. It's just like a collectible. [00:45:00] Yeah. I think it'd be really cool to have a Wizards card game.

Um, I know that there's, um, Like indie game communities. So for example, like, you know, like the oatmeal, like Matthew, how he did, um, exploding kittens, for example. That was like a totally, or maybe it was throw, throw burrito, but the, the idea is that like a different game before he got involved. Um, and there's, there's community of game designers where they're able to like, like indie game designers where they create games that are like close to fun, but maybe the artwork's not there.

Like the, like the flavor's not there. Um, and so my dream is that we could sort of find someone who's a bit far along in the mechanics, um, you know, and then do it because cuz like I love playing like magic gathering and, but I'm also not a game designer, so whenever I sit down and try to design a wizard game, I just end up like creating magic with like, wizards on the cards.

You know, it's kind of fun, but not like something we could really do for real. So, yeah, happy to kind of hear those idea ideas. If anyone sort of is in that community, I'd love to talk to [00:46:00] some people there. Yeah, I had a thought about the CoLab, so maybe it could be something like, if you own a wizard and if you also own some parallel cards, could like the wizards get access some sort of, um, like pred drop access pre-release.

Cause I know that, that they have a drop coming in October. Sort of maybe like an incentive to have to own reserves also, then you can get some cards as well. Right. Hey, Doda, if we can segue real quick. I, I was seeing a lot of comments in the Discord. A lot of new people were wondering about the leaders.

Uh, would you be able to touch up on that, this ama? Yeah, totally. I mean, okay, so, alright, so one about new people. Um, I'm working on docs for the website. There's, you know, it's clear to me that we need to have more information on the website around. Like, how do we think about affinity? What does it mean to create lore for your wizard?

Like how, like what are the different clubs or the ways you [00:47:00] can get involved? Like, you know, there's all these, like the basic questions that people seem to always ask and we just need to do a better job. Um, by we, I really mean me because I'm in charge of like making that happen. In putting those links up on the website and making sure that it's like easy for new people to kind of understand everything that's going on.

Um, LF and I are also working on doing, um, like an updated roadmap because we just have like so much stuff coming up that we were like juggling at the same like we're, we're, we're working simultaneously right on like. Derivative artworks, comics show game, like all these things are happening, but it's, there's, you can't like go one place and you can see where everything is.

So we'll work on making that better. I for sure know that that's like a problem. Um, in terms the Warriors specifically, I mean, I am so excited to launch new characters. So Warriors for example, is the first one. I've talked about this before, that like, There's so many, when you look at the map, there's so many characters that, that, that can come eventually to have like Mer Folk from the Brine or like [00:48:00] who are the Hugh Masters or, um, do we do more like vampires from the mist?

These kinds of things. And so I'm like quite excited to, uh, you know, to ha to do a drop of burn s right? Like that would be so fun, but. I think we also wanna be really considerate of like all of the stakeholders, right? You know, for us today to drop a 10 k collection of warriors, um, you know, be fun to have those people in our community.

Maybe, um, like as much as I don't love to like focus onos of the price of wizards, You know, there is an argument to be made that maybe like our floor price just recently got above minting and if we did a bunch of Warriors, people have complained to me. They said, oh, if you did, if you did a 10 k drop of Warriors, you're just gonna kill the the price of wizards.

And we wouldn't like that cuz we felt like we invested in wizards. Um, and, and like join this community with like an expectation that there's gonna kind of like, grow and all these things. So, you know, a as I always do, I wanna like make a clear statement that, you know, your purchases a wizard is not an investment and like, [00:49:00] you know, are not building value into your wizards.

In fact, that's part of the reason the book of Lores, that you're able to sort of add onto your wizards in your own way. Um, that said, I also recognize like NFTs for, uh, the space and sort of the, there's different. There are some people who are in it because they love the Lord and the characters and they wanna be part of our community.

And there are other people that are part of us, they wanna like buy low so high. And I understand that. I just wanna be careful all that to say. I just wanna be careful about when we drop warriors and that it's like everyone is just dying for us to launch Warriors and like every, it's like so obvious that we should do this drop and everyone wants them and you know, maybe we're there and I just don't recognize, but I just feel that like, you know, one for example, clear.

Um, One clear kind of marker for me might be this idea that we have a game. Um, you know, if we have a game, we're not gonna only have 10,000 people who can never play it. So I think in one sense it will be a bit like, um, Fortnite, and that if you join you, um, If you join the game and you don't own a wizard, you can still play [00:50:00] and get items and get property and whatever, but you don't get like the wizard skin.

The wizard skin only exists for the, the wizard holder. Um, but if we had a game and it was growing, you could imagine that there's room for us to do, um, a set of warriors. And so I think that's like a clear kind of milestone in which we'll do warriors. Um, but maybe we do it before, like maybe we'll be ready before.

I'm not exactly sure. What, what do y'all think? I think doing Warriors right now would kind of delude away from, I don't wanna say the value, but at least the momentum behind what Wizards has going on. I would prefer we kind of wait until Wizards is like, yep. Further develop then that way the value of the Warriors isn't jeopardized as well.

You know, that's what I think too. I think we just wait a little bit, like wait until it's just so obvious that we like have to have, you know, because we do need to have warriors in this world and we do need to have other characters, but like, let's not Russia it like let's not do Russia before it's time.[00:51:00]

Inviting you up here. Hello?

Oh, um, about the, the, somebody popped up before to say that we could use the sort of like some, uh, weapons and that. Some props being more effective in like a pvp sort of battle sense. And I was wondering if, um, you had any insight on whether the affinities could be used in that process?

Um, yeah, for sure. Also, there's a couple of people that just requested to speak and I like Xed you out and when I was like trying to accept. So just try again if you wanna speak. Um, yes. I think like affinities like. Like are very likely to, um, be related to kind of the, the powers of your wizard, right? You, this [00:52:00] idea that sort of, um, a wizard has a strong affinity towards fire, for example, um, is going to make them more effective, um, with fire.

So take us will for sure play a role.

Is there, okay. I see a lot of the special wizards have like no familiar, no room. Is there anything special about that? Like you mean like the uniques? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think you just wanna have balance in the world, right? Like uniques are unique in that. Like that is what they are. So I think, um, I, I don't think like, you know, like Dei Dee's wizard is super awesome, but like, it shouldn't be, for example, like the king of all wizards.

It has its own strengths and drawbacks.

Okay. [00:53:00] We've just got a few more minutes here. Uh, we're rolling up on, on an hour, so I know a couple folks came up to, to speak. Happy to answer just a couple more questions and then we'll wrap up.

I dunno what you were thinking, Marcus, but maybe the, um, the unique wizards could be in the same affinity class as like, um, like maybe the, like there's some wizard heads there, basically different colors. They're all like a form of wizard though, in terms of like, they're all human male, its,

yeah, and I think that there's a couple aspects, right? There's sort of. The wizard and its role and the, the lore and in the world and then the, with like specific games, there's going to be, um, specific game mechanics, you know, because when we do, for example, let's say like, let's say that we are able to create kind of the forgotten ruins Metaverse game, you know, we think of [00:54:00] a game, uh, like you might think of, let's say, I don't know, a Zelda game, right?

There's many Zelda games. Um, you know, everything from a link to the past to like, um, of time and it, it's not like sort of the, um, the core essence of link isn't in any one particular game. And I'd wanna be careful on folks like Overindexing, I guess, on, um, any one character's role in any one particular game.

Cuz I feel like that's. That's just one slice of the entire pie of the, like wholeness of, of a particular wizard, if that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. Thanks clarifying. Alright, we are at time. So this has been Elf, JRO, and Dota at the Quantum Downs signing off. Have a good day, wizards.