Wizard Wednesday Episode 8 Transcription

Wizard Wednesday Episode 8

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Elf: [00:00:00] It is 2:00 PM my time, so let's get started. Welcome to our cult meeting, a k A Wizard Wednesday. The book of lore is hot off the presses and the pages are burning through burning through block by block. On the eighth network. We are seeing an absolute cambri explosion of creativity with Master of Spots cosmic maid Bathsheba, which Flora adapt, Hadrian en chanter, Saundra OIG of the hall, angel of the Marsh, goober of the Mount, and like 700 other wizards pouring their creativity into the book of lore.

I'm telling you, this document is going to rival the library of Alexandria. In that entire worlds will be created and destroyed as we all together collaborate on this legendary, like Johannes Gutenberg himself, Dota and his [00:01:00] buddy Niki have practically created the printing press 3.0. Congratulations, Dota.

Uh, thank

Dotta: you.

Madotsuki: Thanks.

Dotta: Yeah. Congratulations to all

Elf: of us. Yeah, I know that was a huge, uh, effort on your part and Niki as well. Um, I just looked at it today. It's just looking amazing. Oh, thanks.

Dotta: Yeah. I'm, uh, so happy to finally get it out. Yeah, and it for sure wasn't all me. Niki and some of the other folks in the coding Guild have contributed, but particularly Niki has really helped, really helped, uh, pull the load there.

Elf: Yep. Yep. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's just gorgeous. Um, sorry, go ahead. No, no. So the,

Dotta: we'll, we'll talk a little bit about it. I can talk a bit about, uh, the mechanics there. You know, a couple of features we want to add is we just lifted the restriction for a few megabytes upload. Now you [00:02:00] can upload, should be able to upload files of any size.

And then the main thing I think we want to add, um, is around editing. Um, and so you'll be able to edit, it'll still cost gas, but if you wrote the lore and you still hold the wizard, you'll be able to edit. But of course, after you transfer your wizard, the, the lore becomes

Elf: immutable. Right. And, and, and I know you said this several times, but like if you sell your wizard and the new holder can add lore, but they can't delete the lore that the previous owner wrote.

Correct? That's right. Nora edited. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Super interesting. So I wanna talk a little bit about the book of lore, if you're ready. Yeah, by all means, go for it.

Dotta: So I've been interacting a lot with, uh, Majoris, Zi a lot on Twitter this week. Um, he's got some demos up of a really, really cool, um, game he's using.

I dunno if it's RPG maker or exactly what the tool is that he is making, but he, he started making a game and it looked really good on [00:03:00] Twitter. And, uh, he tweeted out a, a picture of the map and it looks amazing. And, um, and then he followed up his tweet by saying, oh, this is not an official forgotten rooms wizard cult game, by the way.

And I, and I read that and I thought, you know, I, I super appre, I, I could understand what he was saying, which is like, you know, I don't want people to be confused that I'm like doing Sadev on some quote unquote official game. And I understood that was a very considerate thing for him to say. Well, I also felt that like I.

I wanna cast off this idea of, um, something being official or not. And so I, I sent out this tweet and it said, hours over official, um, authenticity over authority or community over clergy. And the idea is that these decentralized worlds belong to all of us. Let me unpack this for a second. Like hours over official, right?

It's not about what we're doing here is a collaborative process where [00:04:00] sure, we are creating the maybe, uh, we could call it official lore or we're, it's not even the official lore. We are creating sort of the source universe, but really this universe belongs to all of us. And maybe we have the authority over, um, maybe we have some authority just in terms of as creators, but really the idea that people are creating stories that are authentic to themselves, that are authentic to their wizards, that are like living and creating that, that authenticity.

Is more powerful than authority in our community. And this idea of like, community over, over clergy, what does that, what does that mean? The idea here is, it's almost like a, a call back to the reformation, right? And this idea where you have Martin Luther who he says, you know, we don't need the church as an intermediate, as an intermediary between us and God.

And in the same way that we don't need an intermediate, uh, between what you're creating and you don't need an official creator [00:05:00] to kind of mediate, um, between you and that universe and what is canon. And so I think that really plays into this idea of, of the book of Lore. Um, you know, there are many, many books that we love, but we're not able to take part in their creation.

Um, we're not allowed to build on them in any way. You know, Tolkin, who we love, while his characters live on it in our hearts. His, his book is under Lock and Key from his estate. The Fellowship has left Middle Earth and his book is closed. Um, JK Rowling, her book is gathering Dust. The quill is dry, sitting in the corner.

Um, in her case, it's not because of death or her inability, but just because the rights have been issued, the movies have been made, the merch has been sold. And in torch lit, passageways an endless stream of goblins, pushing mine, carts of Gallions into her vault and to keep on writing risks, interrupting that flow.

And so her book is closed. [00:06:00] Mickey has become mooc. Um, he's devouring and absorbing and acquiring every book it can find. And Mickey is also Maleficent. Disney has become the dragon that gathers every prince and every princess and hides them in his tower. And that dragon rests on a bed of gold in front of an enormous library full of books.

That he unabashedly calls the vault. And at the entrance of that library over the door is a sign that reads cast members only. And all of the books inside are closed. And so today a new book opens Today. This is a book owned by the living. It's a book that is open and cannot be shut. It's a book that's guarded only by a smart contract that says any wizard may write.

So this is a book that can be written by any of us, and it's the Book of lore. So today is the first day of these stories that will be told for a hundred years tales of travel and love and [00:07:00] betrayal and adventures, tales, a might and magic, swords and sorcery of wizards and warriors and beasts, and a world that will all take part that we all own and we all create.

And so the Book of Lord is open. The Book of Lord is open source. It's open to read and it's owned by every one of us. And your wizard story will be told, and I can't wait to read it. The book of Lore today is opened.

Elf: Doda, you gave me goosebumps, man. That's, that's it. That's it. Wizard Wednesday's over.

That's all we needed to say. That's so good, man. Yes. I I I Back up every word you just said. That's, that's it. That's the whole project right there. Nailed it. Yeah. I, I, I, I think the book of lore is honestly our most important, um, feature of this project, I guess you could say. It's, it's, it's the, it's the core of, of, of forgotten, of the Forgotten Ruins world.

[00:08:00] It is the forgotten ruins world. Um, yeah. And I

Dotta: think that's one of the, the, uh, ma uh, major Za also, he made a really interesting point. He, um, he, he's, he said two things that were so meetic I love today. One, uh, or this week he said, uh, this idea of proof of Lord. Um, this idea that, um, that showing kind of the value of your wizard within the Wizard Universe is this idea that you showing that you've written Lauren.

Now, you don't necessarily have to write in the book, though. That's a convenient place to put it. And I love that idea so much. We're seeing so many projects having like mint passes where maybe you have to buy a mint pass or doing some sort of whitelist or some, you know, you put in your address in a Google form.

And, you know, this idea of proof of lore really gave us this idea of, um, like lore passes, right? This idea that, uh, when we look at the Wizarding community, not only will we look to the book of lore when we tell stories through shows or comics or these things, [00:09:00] but we'll also look to the book of lore in terms of like, who do we give priority to for, um, airdrops?

Who do we give priority to in terms of like being minting. Um, so I think that there's like both kind of an ability of like, I. Uh, adding to your wizard, but also there's like, it's on, on chain record of your participation in the community. Yep. And so, yeah, so I love this idea of proof of lore. And then there was another, another quote that he said, which is, um, uh, don't worry about the floor, just look at the lore.

Elf: So good. So good. So yeah, dude, I, I was just talking with Zla Sol. I was like, who is this? Me? Mega was your guy? He's, I don't even know if he's here. He's been doing such cool stuff lately. Yeah, I think

Dotta: he's here. Oh, the one who rings a bell? Yeah. I don't, Hey, you're here. I'm gonna

Elf: invite you up to speak if you wanna talk.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he, he, he's been doing some great quotes. He put some really cool stuff in the book. Yeah. He redesigned his character, which looks just [00:10:00] so good. Yeah. Super good. Um, but yeah. And. Yeah. And, and I, I lo, I love this proof of lore concept cuz that's one thing we've been wrestling with behind the scenes, which is like, how do we identify our most devoted cult members versus people who are just like here to flip NFTs?

And like, the proof of lore is like a good way to discern that. It's like, if you've taken the time to put an entry into the book of law about your character, that pretty much means you're like devoted to this project. Um, and, and we can whitelist you for things in the future.

Dotta: Mm-hmm. Cool. Well, I have, you know, some more things we can talk about today is, I know we have a wizard who wants to share their lore.

We wanna talk about burning souls, we wanna talk more about lore. Is there any other, any folks wanna come up on stage and ask any questions and speak? I think that would be a good break

Elf: before we transition over. Yep. [00:11:00] Yep. Um, I don't know if me was here as able. Was able to see your invite, but

Dotta: I don't know.

I tried, but it's my phone. My phone's been, I upgraded to like iOS 15 or whatever

Elf: and it's been screwy all day. Yeah. Me was here. If you would like to speak about all the cool stuff you've been doing, just uh, put in a request to speak, but we love what you're doing and we're happy to come here. Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, there is a lot of things to talk about.

Um, I don't even know where to start. I guess we could talk about souls on my end. I've been, this whole week has just been, I'm drawing ghosts and stuff. There's so much artwork in, in, in the soul burning event. Um, it's been my full-time job. I was supposed to review some walk cycles by my pixel team and I just haven't had a chance to do that yet cuz Soul's artwork is, Taking so much time.

But, um, but [00:12:00] yeah, I think, I think the soul burning is just gonna be freaking awesome. Um, I think like as far as launch date, it's definitely no later than Halloween and like, Halloween's a good time thematically, but it's later than I kind of hoped. Plus like, everybody's gonna be out trick-or-treating. So I don't know.

Donna, what do you think about launch date?

Dotta: Uh, yeah, I, the plan right now is Halloween. Um, one of the good things about the mechanic of souls is that we are not going to cause, um, uh, a mad rush and there won't be, um, kind of any specific timeline because of the mechanics. So let me talk about this. So, um, the plan right now is that we will airdrop 1,111.

Sacred flames to a set of wizard [00:13:00] holders. Um, these flames will be used, um, to burn a wizard if you so choose. They, there will be no timeline. You can, this flame will be an N nft. You can hold onto it for as long as you'd like. There's no obligation to use it. Um, and if you decide that you want to try it, use it like any other nft.

That would be your freedom. Um, so there are two questions. One is, um, who are the folks receiving that flame? And the second would be, um, what happens if you use it? So let's talk about who will be receiving it. So we'll make sure that the mechanics here are auditable. Um, the, the main component of the plan is the following, which is, um, we're taking the list of wizard holders.

And we've, so we've have a set of addresses, folks who [00:14:00] have like Bo Wizards for Minting Day and have been holding through. Now it, we are going to airdrop one flame to every account that has been that in order of, uh, the longest holder by block until we run out of those 1,111 planes. I'm just gonna say 1000 cause I don't

Elf: wanna keep saying Yeah, that's actually 11, that's not the correct number, but that's irrelevant.

Continue.

Dotta: Okay. It's not the correct number, so we're just gonna say a thousand. Sure. You'll find out the correct number on the day of the drop. Yep. Yep. Um, so the, um, so to reiterate what we're saying here is that the idea is that, uh, for example, if on minting day you minted 50 wizards, you've sold 30 of them.

You're still holding 20 from your original mint, then you'll receive one flame to that account [00:15:00] and if on, uh, the day after minting, well, I'm not sure exactly. I think that we, we got up to 1400 holders in the first day. I'm not sure how many of them are still holding. Um, but if you minted one wizard on minting day and you're still holding, then you'll receive one flame.

Um, and so the idea is that it's both fair in terms of longevity and fair in terms of, um, you know, not necessarily being overly weighted towards folks who tend to have bigger wallets. And so, uh, we'll make the queries for that auditable. Um, and so everyone can kind of see and verify. We will, of course, exclude our own wallets, the wallets of, you know, uh, like our own team and that sort of thing.

But yeah, so that, that drop should be happening. That snapshot has honestly already been taken. There's al you can't really go back and change it necessarily because, uh, there's al already over a thousand accounts who have been holding kind of long enough and, uh, that snapshot has been taken. I suppose maybe if someone sold, uh, their last wizard between now and earlier [00:16:00] this week, but we'll be dropping that, um, you know, sometime within the next two weeks.

We'll, you'll, we'll let you know. We're gonna wait for gas to cool down a bit.

Elf: So if, so, just to stop right there for a second. Let's say somebody wants two flames, they would have to be lucky enough to buy one from someone who wants to give theirs up.

Dotta: That's right. Yeah. In my analysis of the, of the group of people that we're looking at, um, I believe, uh, you know, we'd have to double check the numbers will be auditable in case I'm incorrect, but I believe that there was between, uh, four to 500 folks who will receive a flame who are only holding one wizard.

Um, and so you could imagine maybe those folks desire to burn their only wizard, but I would guess many of them would be willing to trade it, sell it, something like that. And so if you want more than one, you can

Elf: Yep. Look for it. Yep.

Dotta: All right. So the, uh, bigger question I [00:17:00] suppose is, uh, what happens if you use it?

You know, uh, is this a guaranteed upgrade? And the answer is absolutely not. Um, choosing to burn a wizard is, um, dark magic that is unpredictable. Some may receive a ghost, some may receive, uh, something powerful. Some may receive something that you wouldn't want at all. Uh, I, there's, it's certainly not without risk, uh, to, to burn a wizard with this sort of dark magic.

Elf: Yep. Agreed.

Yeah, I mean, that's, that's pretty much it. Um, that's pretty much it.

Dotta: Yeah. So we probably will open the burning, the great burning on Halloween. Seems most likely. That seems like a good date, even though we'd like to bring it up, pull it up. That seem, I, that's what I would plan on. But however, you know, if we decide to do it a bit early, we'll make sure we do it when having enough time, if, [00:18:00] you know, I don't think this should happen, but if in the case that it is a bit later or the case that you're out trick-or-treating on Halloween, there's no rush, there's no, there'll be no gas war.

Um, there's no time pressure. If you decide to burn next year or, you know, in five years from now, um, that will still be an option available to you as long as you have a flame. Yep. As long as you have, yeah. A flame and a wizard. Yep.

Elf: Yep, yep. Exactly. Cool. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm super excited for it. I, I, the, the artwork is coming along really nicely.

Um, super excited. Likewise. So that's souls. Um, we also have so many things. Okay. I'll just say, I'll just say this. I feel like next week we are going to have some massive announcements. No, you can't play it up. We're not allowed to talk about that yet. [00:19:00] Okay. Okay. I won't say anything though. Okay. That's all I'm gonna say.

Um, okay. We'll hold off on that. Really, I can't say anything.

Dotta: Oh, you can, I mean, you said enough already. Come back next week. Same Wizard time, same Wizard Station. Okay. I mean, we're not done

Elf: yet, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, okay. Well, I was going to briefly just mention, um, the lore that I wrote from one of my wizards.

Um, and then maybe we'll turn it over to our guest, um, lore speaker. Actually, let me invite her up, um, if sh Oh, there she is. Uh

Dotta: oh. We also haven't mentioned the fact that, uh, Lochness is now full-time with us.

Elf: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Dotta: I'm gonna invite her up to speak if she wants to. I don't know if she wants to, but, yep.

Uh, but [00:20:00] yeah, huge news is that we have, uh, Lochness who. Has decided to join us full-time and it's been amazing. Um, I believe this has been her first or second week. I'm sure you've seen kind of the socials being even more active. The Discord got more organized. The help pages are all easier to follow.

I've noticed that we've had newer wizards coming in and feeling like they know where to go, how to get their questions answered. I'm just, I just couldn't be happier. I am so happy to be working with Lochness. Oh, hello? Hello. You made it up on stage. Hi.

Madotsuki: Hey. Hey.

Elf: Yeah, super stoked to be a full-time wizard.

Just wanna be here to help make things as smooth as possible as the cult grows, because yeah, there's a lot of things coming down the pipeline and if you ever have any suggestions or just wanna hit me up on Discord or here on Twitter, let me know. [00:21:00] Gladly, as we have stated before, this is a decentralized build, so very much so open to any suggestions anyone has and super stoked to just make our experience here.

Amazing.

Dotta: Totally. And it's, you've already done so much and it's been really helpful. Like, I know that like there's a lot to kind of wizards and our world and our lore and how we think about our project and um, and so I think your work, especially over the last week in terms of making everything more accessible has been just such a relief and so great to see.

So yeah, if anyone has suggestions, know that Lochness is around. Um, and then, uh, I'm just so, so happy to be working with her full-time.

Elf: Yeah, and I guess this would be a good time to share something I shared with Elf earlier in the week, but I am an actual Oracle, so Fantastic. We thought about having Oracles in the Oracle on Discord, so open [00:22:00] to having some discourse around that with anybody who's interested.

Yeah, I mean, thi this, this touches on something that really sold me on, on Lochness, which is like, first we definitely, obviously, obviously needed a social media expert, which she is. She's also like really tune with like what the kids are into, like on TikTok. She's really good at TikTok, but then, The thing that really sold me was like, she understands the project and she understands the genre that we're swimming in, and she just like really like, like knows how to, um, I guess like role play or whatever, or just, just like really like keep the, the theme going.

She's not just a social media expert, like she really just gets the project.

Dotta: A hundred percent.

Elf: Yeah. Yep. Um, cool. Uh, okay. I'm gonna give my wizard [00:23:00] Lord just real quick and then I'm gonna have slick chick, uh, deliver her wizard lore. Um, so the only reason I wanted to give mine is because I wrote an entry for Wizard Zero, which is like, I think he's called, um, holy Archist. Uh, luminous of the heavens.

And I'm always talking about like, don't overpower your wizard. But I was kind of in a predicament cause I felt like Wizard Zero did kind of have to be overpowered. So, so I was like trying to find the line of, of like not overpowering Wizard Zero, but still making him pretty freaking powerful enough. So I came up with this idea of like, like at first I was like, okay, is is he the creator of Matter and Time?

No, I, that's too much. So I decided he'd be the creator of nothing. And, and, and to me that was just fun because it's like, like what is nothing? What, what is all the [00:24:00] nothing that's in between matter and time And is that nothing limitless? Which begs the question, what actually is zero? What is the concept of zero?

He is Wizard zero. And I know that like, Like, I think I could, I could have this totally wrong, but I think zero was, it's an Arabic numeral, it was created by Arabs. And like once they did that, it like really improved math. And um, like zero was a very important, powerful concept. And so creating nothing like, like my first que, and maybe there's a theoretical physicist in this, in the, in the audience is, is there limitless nothing?

Because I know that matter is limited, you can't create or destroy matter. But what about nothing? Is it truly limitless? Maybe I sound like an idiot right now, but what, what do you think Doda is, is nothing limitless? Hmm, from like a phy, from like a physics point of view. I guess it

Dotta: just depends on what you think is like outside our [00:25:00] universe.

Like is it like men in black, right? Or like the out like film of our universe is marbles for another outside alien? I'm not really sure.

Elf: Yeah, I don't know either so and so like if, if you're creator of nothing, then are you really that impressive at all? I don't know. Anyway, that was sort of my thoughts and created my wizard.

Um, so that's all I wanted to say. Uh, slick Chick, are you ready? I'm ready. Can you hear me

Madotsuki: okay? We can hear you. Yes. Hello. Hi. So

Elf: I have to say I have so much respect for the people in this group. I'm actually quite nervous to speak today just because some of the content that you guys put out is just so amazing.

Um, but I wanna contribute, so I'm gonna try. So

Madotsuki: thanks. Don't be nervous. We're

Dotta: so excited to talk to you. We're so excited.

Elf: Don't

Dotta: be nervous.

Elf: All right, so the year is 2021 ad. Hedge wizard Ursula. The step is dancing in the forest freely with her trickster fox. They hear a russell in the bushes and the fox immediately jumps to [00:26:00] protect Ursula, but it's merely her spirit animal a bear.

She has known the fox for only a short time, but their passion, fire and drive for change, connects them and is forged an unbreakable bond. She opens her hip pack and pulls out some beef jerky, tossing it to the fox herself, enjoying a joint and sets off on a stroll towards Kelsey's Bay. Reflecting on what has gotten her here today, see, Ursula has lived many lives.

She was born in the mid 14 hundreds. Her family was persecuted during the witch trials, and it was with great luck that she and her sister managed to escape. What had they done to deserve this untoward faith? Her mother was a very kind witch who had practiced healing methods that worked at a time when mainstream medicine was completely ineffective.

She had healed and eased the suffering of the same people who eventually turned on her. Her mother had threatened the power of the clergy and the flow of money to the church in the same way that Ursula today challenged modern society establishment. And in many ways, the patriarchy. Her grandmother had bestowed upon her the title of wizard and a coveted [00:27:00] Phoenix feather before facilitating her retreat to the hedge where she still resides today.

Remember Ursula, she had said, no matter what happens in this lifetime from the ashes, a fire shall be woken. A light from the shadow shall be sprung. Ursula spent those first few years making a home in the hedge, but living in fear and isolation. She was a clumsy novice who was constantly miscasting spells and worried a witch hunter would come to execute her.

It is the memory of her family that has given her the strength to persevere and fight battles with her heart. She's not the strongest or the most gifted wizard, but she's the most passionate. As she arrives at Kelps Bay, she takes a look at her reflection in the stream. While to an unaware onlooker, she appears youthful.

Thank goodness her witchcraft has stopped her from going gray. Her one slender head is now shaped as a crown. Her crown head deserving of the wisdom that now emanates from her. Everything around her possesses symbol and meaning even something as simple as her outfit. The red is a commemoration of the blood spilled by her family and the [00:28:00] many witches and wizards before her.

The green symbolizes her resurrection. Her purple hat, her royalty in the hedge and the respect that shear got now garners her age accumulated knowledge, insights, and intuition. Give her the courage to stand up for people that cannot stand up for themselves. And while the odds often remain stacked against her as a female wizard, she works twice as hard to earn half the compensation.

And she's just started looking into freezing her wizard eggs. She's a strong proponent of hedge wizard rights and is making headway and changing the culture within the metaverse. The Phoenix gives her strength and reminds her that no matter how many times she bursts into flames, literally and figuratively, she can, has and always will rise from the ashes.

And that's it. That's my little introduction to my first wizard.

Madotsuki: I

Elf: love it. Oh, thank you. So, okay, so here's what's so great. I mean, in my opinion, what I love about it is like, first of all, the hedge wizards. Are so [00:29:00] underrated. Like if you look up what a hedge wizard is, it's sort of like an amateur underpowered wizard, a not impressive wizard, but those are the ones with the most humanity.

Those are the ones that I think could tell the most compelling stories. Um, and, and, and you just did that. Um, and so yeah, it's, it, it was, it was really great. I loved it. I actually had a lot of fun writing it. It's a nice creative outlet. And now I'm like, okay, I need a wizard family. Cause I need to write more lore now because it was really

Dotta: fun.

Elf: I love it. Yeah. So good. And yes, thank you for contributing and I hope you put that in the book of lore and we hear more from Ursula and her family. Um, I think somebody was requesting to speak. Yeah,

Dotta: I can't ask people. I don't know. I keep trying to accept them and it doesn't work.

Elf: Okay. Um, yeah. Would anybody [00:30:00] else like to request to speak?

Questions? Comments? This is an open forum. Um, yeah. Slick Chick. I'm glad you put Kelsey's Bay into your Laura as well. Um, yeah,

Madotsuki: yeah, I'm, I'm interested in seeing more people include more locations in their lore too. I think, uh, we've been seeing, uh, even in the lore channel, some people have been putting, they've been incorporating some of the errors on the map.

Um, obviously, you know, very excited to see when more of the map is revealed. I know that Alpha is very busy with doing, you know, uh, litany projects right now. Um, but I think those, those areas have created, uh, have been a catalyst for a lot of creative outlets for people to see, you know, the larger scope of what the, of, you know, how the different areas and forgotten rooms.

Look like, or at least a glimpse of them and how they've, you know, how they map together and such. So, yeah. Um, very interested. I thank you for that. For, for, for putting, um, you know, writing in more areas in your lore. I feel like, um, developing [00:31:00] areas is something that, uh, a lot I, I'd love to see a lot of people do.

Yep,

Elf: totally. Yep. Yeah. And yes, and the map, the map is definitely going to expand. There's so many other places, um, that exist that are on the map. Um, oh, we got a request from Dr. Slrp. Uh, Dr. Slrp. What's up?

Hey, hey. So I'm not a theoretical physicist, but from a math perspective about nothing. Oh, awesome. Yeah, there's like infinite amounts of nothing between like each particle and space. Cause like space is continuous. Do you have any kind of like continuous spectrum? Got it. Like there's infinite amounts.

Nothing. Yeah. Between like every bit of nothing, you

Madotsuki: know? Perfect. Yeah, I was gonna put comment on that too. There's actually different, there's actually different levels of infinity too. Like some infinities are larger than other infinities. So like the space between two particles is actually like, there's an infin, there's an infinity in [00:32:00] that space and that infinity and contains nothing.

It's, I, I listed a video of it in, of, in PVS space time that they kind of go over some of these concepts in the chat, but it's pretty cool.

Elf: Great. Well

Dotta: apparently El didn't watch those.

Madotsuki: Nothing. It doesn't matter if Elf didn't watched them. Nothing is actually a very interesting concept. Yeah, totally.

Elf: Yeah.

Yeah. I mean that, that's what, that's, that was what I was hoping it was infinite, because if you're just creating more of something that's infinite, then are you really doing anything impressive at all? Um, I don't know, but so,

Madotsuki: This just, just as a, as a little, as a little, uh, tidbit of how interesting, even the concept of infinity is.

Technically when you touch something, you don't actually touch it. There's an, there's like an infinitely small amount of space in which your particles actually repel one another. So you never actually touch something. Interest. There is a space in between. Yeah. So but you feel it. Yeah. You, you feel it.

What you feel is [00:33:00] actually the repulsion essentially, like you feel the repelling force of your particle was pretty much going against each other, but they never actually touched in between that space. There's an infinite amount, there's an infinite, infinitely small spot of pretty much nothingness in between those particles.

Those particles never actually touch

Elf: one enough. So does that mean we're in the matrix?

Dotta: Yeah,

Madotsuki: you can say that.

Elf: Does it also mean that our bodies are nothing because our bodies are just made up of a bunch of cells that have infinite space in basement?

Madotsuki: Yeah. You're nothing. You're nothing.

Elf: See, this is, this is sort of the, um, the what, what interests me about like, in the forgotten ruins world, the, uh, the, the dynamic between magic and technology, technology being science. Cuz like if you go deep enough with, with science, it just becomes magical. Um, at least to layman like me. A hundred percent to me too.[00:34:00]

I agree with you. Yeah, yeah,

Madotsuki: yeah. And like a lot of science is pretty much like magic until you actually like, you know, actually understand it and break down mechanism, you try to explain to anybody. You know, in the, in the, in the 17th century about how, how exactly a television works, it's magical to them.

Right, right, right. Yeah. Or a smartphone, you go over there, like you have this magical box that's, you know, emits light and Okay. You know, you can do a bunch of things with it. Like, that's, that's magic to them, right? Yep. But we obviously broke it down and understand a complexity of how it, how it works. So, and even like, you know, I, I guess, um, we're kind of in fas that's why I, I personally like, I, I mean obviously it's, it's kind of like known, but like I really love quantum physics.

Quantum physics is like kind of that plane where it's like a lot of what we understand at Quan about quantum physics feels very magical. Cause like, we can't really. Like tie it together with classical physics. Right. Too, too neatly. It works on like the quantum, it works on like the very small quantum macro, [00:35:00] micro scale.

But then like, trying to scale it up is like, it can, like we know how it works. Like that's how our GPS satellite systems work through, like, through concepts like, like, you know, relativity and such. Even though it seems like it's really bizarre out there for us, but it works. Yep. Right. Our con we have to calculate our GPS systems based off of the based off theory of relativity, which is the, um, you know, the distance, the distance between our like earth and the satellites and, you know, the velocity, the, the velocity of speed that the satellites are going comparatively to the earth.

There's a time dilation difference. And so like, that seems really bizarre and magical, but it, it, it's a reality

Elf: you have to deal with. So like you're, you're, you're saying that like, even though we don't fully understand it, we are using quantum physics in like practical everyday,

Madotsuki: right? Like, cuz like, because like the implications of like, like implications of it are really bizarre and like, we don't like.

It's, it's hard to really, we don't have an exact mapping of it, so right now we're kind of in a, in a physics. But we consider, like, we try to find a theory of everything, which is essentially finding a way [00:36:00] to map out cl like, you know, like classical, classical physics with quantum physics. Yeah. Cuz we know the quantum physics and we know how it works and we know the classical physics and how it works.

But there's some, there's some like disconnect in how we actually like make them marry one another because it seems like they contradict one another at a certain time, but they don't really, it's just that we don't really understand enough about them to really figure out why does it seem like they contradict each other?

Why does it seem like it's something like so bizarre and out there? And then I guess also part of a lot of it is that like, you know, we're still learning, like this is still like, pretty much cutting edge. So like we're still learning, you know, like part of like, um, I think the, the biggest, um, probably the most, uh, the most well known experiment in quantum physics would be, um, you know, the, um, probably the, I wanna say the split particle, um, split particle, uh, experiment.

Double split. Double split. And that experiment, it's kind of like, it's, it seems really bizarre cuz essentially it's like without an like, um, [00:37:00] the, it's, the particles are in a superposition and it's only when you observe the particles that they kind of, they, they exist in like every, every possible position that they can until you observe it.

And once it's observed, it collapses from all the possibilities that it can be until one single possibility that you observe it at. Um, and that seems really magical, but really it's more along the lines of we don't have the proper tools to really understand what's going on. So it seems like it's really out there.

But eventually the, you know, the thought is that it's, we'll build up the tools to figure out what's actually happening, but right now we don't know what's actually happening. We just know the end

Elf: outcome. So I just want to note for audience members listening in that all of this quantum physics is being delivered to us by Magus Devin of the quantum Downs, who, oh, hello.

Who is, who is the creator of the quantum mushroom. Um, and so at some point we may get a Grand Unified theory from a quantum mushroom chip from the quantum mushroom. Yeah. I'd like to say too, like,

Dotta: uh,

Elf: scientists of the [00:38:00] past have always kind of been wizards. Cause if you

Dotta: look at Isaac Newton Yeah, totally.

Like he was deep into alchemy, dude. So yes.

Madotsuki: Yep. It's always been there. Yep. It's, it's just, you know, this as we learn more, you know, we kind of like, we kind of dis dismissed some stuff that, you know, it seemed like it was theoretically possible, but, you know, didn't turn out to be true. But we end up learning, we end up, there's always something to learn.

So we always, we're always picking up news things. So like, like even the conceptually, like there's, so conceptually there's like, you know, the, uh, if you wanna think of, um, in terms of like FaceTime, there's like the Big Bang and we can't see behind like what happened before the Big Bang, if there was really a happened before the Big Bang.

That's like forever outside of our scope of ever understanding. Um, and similar to that, there's a concept in the future because of, because of how the universe is ever expanding, infinitely, every, all the galaxies are expanding infinitely away from each other. There will be a point [00:39:00] in which they expand so far away from each other that.

Um, that light particles will never be able to reach to one another. So if we were look out to light at the night sky with our strongest telescopes, we literally wouldn't be able to see anything around us anymore. It would just be completely emptiness. Right now we can, we're in a point where the galaxies are, are, you know, far, far away from us.

They're still close enough that we can see their light, but eventually it would just be nothing. Wow. And right. So, uh, and if you are, so, think about if you're like a, a being, maybe not a human, cuz this is so far away in the future, humans may not even be a thing anymore. If you're being an intelligent being from that point, looking out in a night sky, the only thing you would see is nothing.

And there's no way of you having any information about anything other than nothing out there. So you would assume there's nothing out there that's myth. So how does that say about maybe the position we're in, that we are in, perhaps, you know, perhaps an unfathomable amount of time ago, there was something out there.

Before the Big Bang that we don't know about, [00:40:00] but there's literally outside of our scope that we can never access that information out anymore.

Elf: Magus Devin Of the Quantum Downs, ladies and gentlemen.

Madotsuki: Sorry. I like this though. Yeah, I, I actually had fun with the Book of Lore. Uh, last night I got to publish, um, I got to publish, uh, like I, um, uh, origin story of Spinner, um, and how Mags Devin, uh, met Spinner and it kind of went almost into this territory of like infiniteness and nothingness and, um, so it's, I kind of, I, I think for some of my lords, maybe not all of them, but some of my lawyers, I probably may go in into more concepts like these cuz I like exploring these concepts.

Yeah. And, um, if anybody's interested in this stuff, honestly, like I, I linked it into the, um, I linked it in the, the Secret Channel, the Secret, the Secret Tower. But, uh, PBS Space Time is a really great channel. I mean, like, you're gonna have, like, it's, it's a lot to go through, but I think they have it really easily digestible to like learn this kind of stuff.

Um, it's a really great resource. You may [00:41:00] have to do a little bit of homework if you just like, jump in the middle of a video of the series. Like, there's gonna be concepts thrown at you that you won't know if you don't start from the beginning. But if you, if you wanna learn this stuff as a wild

Elf: ride, hell yeah.

Awesome, man. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Quantum, um, quantum science, I guess quantum physics is, is, does play a role in the forgotten ruins with, uh, universe. Um, I've got, I've got a lot written about it. Um, it hasn't been revealed yet, but as you can probably guess, the quantum shadow and the quantum downs have something to do with that.

Um, hi. Hey. I just wanted to chime in about the, the physics conversation first. Sure. Long time listener. First time. First time caller. Yep. Um, so what, what they're referring to the formula wants to look at is called the Von Newman. Interpretation of, of quantum mechanics. And very recently, actually, like I think this year it was disproven.[00:42:00]

So if wants to write Laura about that, you want to look up the delayed choice quantum eraser

Madotsuki: experiment. Yep. That goes perfectly. That's exactly what I mean. I was like, there's some things that like we, this is cutting edge, like a lot of stuff that like we're still learning as we go this, something like that.

Yeah. And as we develop our tools, we realize, hey, like maybe our tools told us this, that it was coming out this way, but we've toned in a little bit better. And we realized that maybe you weren't exactly yet. Yep. That's exactly

Elf: it. Well the problem, when you measure anything, you have to

Madotsuki: shoot a photon had it and that's what Exactly.

And that exactly. Once you start, once you, so like the idea of like, you need the tools to measure it, to observe it. By the act of observing it, you're actually messing up what you're trying to observe. So it's like, it it's a really hard line to me to, to, to cross. Yeah.

Elf: The, the part that sucks though is they disprove the consciousness collapses the way function, but.

Which I think a lot of people still are. Ah, that's, I was

Dotta: gonna use that as

Elf: like the ultimate test for like ai, you [00:43:00] know,

Dotta: AI had consciousness. Would it be able to collapse way functions, you know? Yeah. No,

Elf: no. Or it does not need to be alive. I, I have a question for Doda or anyone else. Um, will Quantum Computing break the ETH blockchain?

Dotta: Oh yeah. Sort of. It

Elf: will for a little bit. Okay. But do it, can you just restructure our contract so it doesn't harm the forgotten ruins world?

Madotsuki: I, I think by the time we get Quantum of Computing that's able to actually do anything meaningful to blockchain, we have larger issues than the blockchain. I, I, I think I will

Dotta: wait

Elf: larger, larger than destroying the forgotten ruins universe.

Madotsuki: Yeah. Can I chime in on this

Elf: one? Well, the, so the, the, the best attack would be, yeah. I don't mind giving you an answer, but go ahead. The best attack would be if someone built a quantum computer, they could find, uh, the private key [00:44:00] that controls a zero address. Interesting. And then do crazy things. Yeah. Not tell anyone about it.

Well, and then move, move. That's the other thing though, is move, God knows how many tokens of how many different things and destroy everything.

Dotta: The problem is, is Vitalik talks a lot about this too, though. Is that sort of the, like social convention layer underpins even the cryptographic guarantees. And so if someone were to start moving tokens out of the zero address, uh, all the alarm bells would be raised and we would look at the chain and be like, when was the first transaction?

And then we would sort of either roll back or pause everything or you know, like there, there you'd basically kind of like move forward, you'd, uh, in, uh, like on, on the social layer. And I think when you ha by the time that we have, yeah, the worst case scenario is that someone has invented a quantum computer that can de, that can find [00:45:00] private keys and they don't tell anyone about it.

Um, because then it, and also if it's not widely available, for example, Then you can't necessarily upgrade the algorithms to be like, like quantum resistant, um, necessarily. Right. Because you can imagine a case where, for example, if there's a group of people who own quantum computers, then you could theoretically have like, like quantum encryption and then now you can get back to blockchains again.

But of course, under like the current limits of technology, the people who own quantum computers are gonna be like government agencies and they're not necessarily gonna like, let us all run blockchains on them. So I do think that there would be like an intermediate period that's like very tumultuous and a problem for cryptography, but also like online shopping now is like dead, like any sort of secure internet communication can basically be intercepted if that were to

Elf: happen.

Yep. The conspiracy theorist in me says, I find that and then I pretend that I was satoshi

Madotsuki: the whole time. [00:46:00]

Elf: Ah, there you go. Yeah, right. We are all satoshi, right? Yeah.

Dotta: Everybody notices, right? Nobody notices cuz you say You're

Elf: shi and I can prove it. And we're just like, yeah, that, that makes

Dotta: sense. Yeah, exactly.

Perfect. That is vicious.

Madotsuki: You just start moving, you start moving Bitcoin from their Genesis wallet. Like, Hey, I'm Satoshi, this is my wallet. Yeah.

Dotta: All right. I was

Madotsuki: Craig, right? Oh no, please. No.

Um, so I actually have a question that, that, um, somebody asked that they couldn't make it today. They asked, they wanted more information if possible, about the Astrol plane,

Elf: the Astro plane. Um, I cannot give you any inf information on the Astrol plane. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm assuming that this person has a wizard from the Astrol plane.

Probably, yeah. I leave it to them to research and expound [00:47:00] upon it

Madotsuki: sounds. That's fine. Sounds great. Yep. I just figured I'd throw it out there just in case you had any quits that you wanna say about it, but um, I'll be sure it can be that message to them. Yeah, yeah. No, definitely. Now that the book of Lores, I already said earlier, earlier in this, that, um, I'd love to see more people if, if you're, if you want to know more about, you know, whatever location, um, write about it.

Like, you know, we don't have to have, um, you know, elf give out some kind of information about what it is. Um Yep. Write what you think the, if that place is and you know, maybe elf, maybe El Alpha read it and incorporate it more into what if whenever he does drop a exclamation, you know, incorporate that.

Absolutely.

Elf: Yeah. You made me think of something. So like, one thing I put into the collection is, um, like, as far as places go is, um, places that are just straight up borrowed from other. Uh, myths and legends, like places like, um, Avalon and [00:48:00] Zou and El Dorado. Um, there, there's a bunch of places like that in the collection that are pulled from like other myths and cultures all throughout human history.

Um, and, and the reason I put those in there into our collection is because. Like there's, there's already a lot of myth and lore and, and, and legends written about those places. People, you know, it, it's already out there on the internet in the ether. You can, you can easily research this stuff and incorporate it into the forgotten ruins world.

Um, and, and, and you can put a, you can put a spin on it, of course. Um, yeah, and I

Dotta: think a lot of like persistent myths, like a lot of reoccurring myths, uh, even like boarding on tropes for example. They, they continue to exist because they like play on certain dimensions of like, psychology that is like intergenerational, right?

This idea of El Dorado, the, the golden city where you can travel and find, you [00:49:00] know, yep. Um, these like stacks of treasure. That's a myth that can, because it like, it, it appeals to like the sense of adventure and wonder and. Finding treasure and success and overcoming adversity. And, and so these things are like true across different, um, like cultures, time periods, and even universes because like the fundamental desires exist in, uh, across those spaces.

And so it's, yeah. Joseph, uh, it's Joseph Campbell. Cause

Elf: these, uh, these stories, uh, archetypal and they, they're myths that are recycled across the ages because they appeal on such a vast level. Exactly, yes. Joseph Campbell's a huge influence of mine. The, the mono myth. Um, it's, it's, it's interesting you say that.

Doda, um, cuz I wrote something today I was maybe gonna talk about, and it's this, this concept I'm calling the Darwinism of lore. And I'm sure most of you know what Darwinism is. It's usually used in the context [00:50:00] of evolution where like, Species, they are, they, um, they live on because they have certain physical qualities that allow them to, uh, successfully adapt to the environments that they're in.

So there's a theory of natural selection working through that type of Darwinism. But Darwinism can be applied to like all kinds of things. It can be applied to markets, it can be applied, um, to i, I think myths and lore. And so like, like for example, like, like why is it that most people, you know, if you walk down the street and you say, what is a manor?

Most people won't know what a manor is. But if you say, what is a unicorn? Pretty much everybody knows what a unicorn is. And so why is it that a unicorn has survived centuries of, of, of human literature and the manacor has not? What is it about the unicorn that like it pervades today even in, in popular culture?

You know, the same can be said of like a dragon. Everybody [00:51:00] knows what a dragon is, but nobody knows what a hippo Griff is except for probably the cult members, cuz you guys are in this ship. Um, so, and, and so, so yeah. So what it is about these myths? Mm-hmm. And, and I can't say exactly, I'm assuming there's like some sort of aesthetic quality that's, that's operating, uh, this type of Darwinism.

Um, you could maybe make a case that it's aesthetic selection instead of natural selection. Um, but, but I don't think that's totally it. I, you know, cuz like, like vampires are beautiful, but zombies are ugly as hell. And yet zombies are super popular in stories and games. Um, and so, so it's really like Doda was saying like, like, it's something about these stories.

Something about these stories that's just super compelling to what it means to be a human being. They speak to like some core innate value in all of us. And so I, I guess what I would say is when you're constructing your [00:52:00] own wizard's lore, what, what, what kind of stories are going to stand the test of time?

What, what are going to, um, leverage this aesthetic Darwinism? Um, that's how you make like the most compelling character, the most compelling stories. It's, it's certainly not like overpowering your wizard and saying they're the creator of all matter in time. It's, it's giving them humanity. Like, like Slick Chick just did just today.

She gave her wizards so much humanity and. Um, you know, that's why Gandolph is so interesting and compelling cuz he has so much humanity compared to Saman who's just drunk with power. Um, you know, it's, it, that's, that's what I would say when, when writing your lore, like, just really think about what makes your character compelling and, and put that into it

Dotta: on the Dragon issue.

This is gonna make me sound super broy. Sorry for bringing this up, but, um, uh, I don't know if you've like listened at all to Jordan Peterson's [00:53:00] elections on literature. Um, you know, he's a controversial character, whatever. He has some thoughts, uh, a lot of really useful thoughts on mythology. Um, one of his theories around like the persistence of the Dragon myth, um, I, you know, I forget the details Escape me, someone can look it up and correct me, but he basically tells this story about how they've done research on this like band of monkeys and they have like two specific warning calls.

They have one specific warning call for that is a sound that says, You know, there's like a snake on the ground, there's something on the ground, get up into the tree and to get up off the ground for safety. And they have another, uh, vocalization for, oh, there's a bird in the air. Everybody race under, like race down from the trees, um, and get underground, like get low so that way you can protect yourself from the raptors in the air.

And he basically says, the dragon myth is sort of this combination of those ultimate two fears, right? Is that you have both this like snake that can, uh, attack you from the ground as well as fly from the [00:54:00] air and reach you even in the sky. It's the ultimate, uh, terror That's awesome. Of a being. And so that's why it's persistent through these generations.

Elf: That makes, you know,

Dotta: yeah. And it's a really compelling case for, for, for dragons. But I think, you know, to your point more broadly, which is. They're like, how do you write good law? Right? Part of is part of how do you write stories that persist and these like fundamental themes of like the fundamental human emotions of fear and protecting your family and falling in love and greed and betrayal and all these, these fundamental things that recur over and over.

Um, you know, those are things that make a good lure because they're, they persist

Elf: through time. Yep. Absolutely. So cool. Yeah,

Madotsuki: I was actually gonna mention that too, cuz you hit the nail and have the, the, the snake and the dragon. That's also that kind of harpens also to, um, what, what Elph was saying with like zombies.[00:55:00]

Um, it may not be aesthetically pleasing, but it harpens on like basic human. If what if you know, the dead were to come back to life and rather than being a joyous occasion, it was actually something that was extremely dreadful of, of, of an event. Yeah. And. Yeah. And like disease, you know, kind of disease and plagues.

Those are obviously, you know, key human fears. Like, we understand, you know, the idea of something that's unfound just wiping out all of your loved ones. And so that's kind of like where like the idea of like, Mies, it may not be aesthetically pleasing, but it's, it's pleasing in the core of like what it it harpens on for human emotions.

Yep. And that's also why in like every zombie movie, it's always like, oh no, the person that I loved is a zombie. Now what do I do? And it's like, cause it's like that, it's like a very basic like, uh, fear of like, what in a zombie situation, somebody you love becomes the undead. How did, are you able to kill them now?

Like, do you [00:56:00] have the heart to, to know that you can end their life after they've come back again? You know? Yep.

Dotta: Has

Elf: anyone here watched The Magicians? Because it touches on that very storyline. It's a very interesting series. In terms

Madotsuki: like Crucifers video, what is, what is, what is The Magicians? Is it on?

What Is It on? Right, the

Elf: Magicians. It's a TV show. Mm-hmm.

Madotsuki: I think it's on sci-fi. It's on sci-fi. I'll look it up. I'll definitely look it up. Yeah. It's on sci-fi. Crucifer

Dotta: also has, it's based on a novel, a short film.

Elf: Sorry, how,

go ahead, Lochness.

Oh, it's all good. I was just saying it's based on a short film. I mean a, a short novel. Gotcha.

Madotsuki: Nice. Definitely. I'll look it up. Sounds great.

Elf: Demonn Slayer is [00:57:00] also about the same thing.

Madotsuki: Pretty much, yeah. The heart do when your sister becomes a demonn. Mm-hmm. Yeah, those kind of stories, like I said, the kind of stories where it's like the, your loved ones come back, but it's not a pleasant ex.

Elf: Oops, I think I just accidentally muted everyone. Hello? Can you guys okay? Yeah, there we go. Okay. Sorry. Sorry, sorry. Magus. Devin. Sorry, Magus. Devin, go ahead. Oh, no problem. No problem. Yep. I was, I was trying to, uh, respond to the request from Bub who just joined us. Hey there. Hey, Bob. Hey.

Dotta: Hey. I just wanted

Elf: to make a, a suggestion as well is a really good, um, podcast called, um, the Emerald, and, uh, it deals a bit with like deep time and, um, I guess some of the, the concepts you guys are like into, And there's a lot of, uh, old, I guess, mythology in there, like a lot of Greek stuff and [00:58:00] stuff about water and uh, the god of electricity and all this sort of stuff.

Um, but yeah, this podcast is called The Emerald. Awesome. Really, really good. And uh, yeah, if you look a lot at a lot of the stuff in there about Aboriginal Australian storytelling, super cool, just how they use the land. And I think you can tie in a bit too, you know, the stuff you guys are talking about.

Just my 2 cents. Very cool. Yeah, I'll check it out. Thank you. No worries. Um, cool. So we only have a few minutes left. Would anyone else like to comment, question?

Um, okay then, uh, slick Chick, I noticed that you changed your avatar to your. Hedge hedge wizard Ursula. It's looking good. Um, all right, Doda, do you have [00:59:00] anything else?

Dotta: I don't think so. There's some chatter in the secret tower around kind of the mechanism that we're using for allocating souls flames. So I think, you know, some folks are raising some concerns. Happy to chat about them. It hasn't been finalized yet, so we can talk there and, but yeah, I don't have anything left, uh, to, to add

Elf: here.

Yeah. Speaking of which, I also wanted to say, um, the book of Lord Went Live today. As we stated in the beginning of this, there may be some bugs. Um, I noticed that I ran into a lot of bugs when I. Connected my ledger. Um, so, you know, like, like we said, this is just v1, we're gonna be irony out, out, out these bugs.

Some of them are totally just on ledger's end and not on the books end. Um, one thing I noticed was update your e [01:00:00] app on your ledger before you start trying to contribute to the book. Um, make sure contract data is allowed. Um, yeah. Dota, do you wanna say anything about that?

Dotta: Uh, there's a whole big thing if you're having trouble with your ledger.

DM me. I just helped Oz with it this morning. And, uh, elf yesterday.

Elf: Yep. And then Oracle at dok. You just came up. What's up man?

Madotsuki: Hey guys. Um, try not to be over, but everyone talking

Elf: about me kind, excited. And there's actually a.

Madotsuki: Series of media articles by, uh, Zia Steele, z i a s t e e l e, where they go into, it's actually about avatar, the last Airbender, but they go into the physics of how, like the science, physics of how you could potentially have

Elf: some of the magical style effects.

And it goes a little, I wanna say they even address some of the quantum physics applications

Madotsuki: and

Elf: [01:01:00] connotations that would come along with everything. So I just wanted to drop that if anyone was interested. So are you telling me that science will advance to the point to where we can become wizards ourselves in i r l?

Dotta: Um, not

Elf: quite that far, but it's saying if it was possible, this is how they would do that. Like if we could figure out how to get into the

Madotsuki: mechanics of it. That's how you could, something like a flame

Elf: that comes from nowhere and it even explains why. A flame would be like an orange

Madotsuki: versus a blue as far as incomplete combustion on how you're

Elf: using some of the particles in the air to initiate the reaction.

And just awesome series of stuff. And I thought other people might be interested in it. Cause I'm kind of trying to use some of those,

Madotsuki: uh,

Elf: some of the data from that one in my own development

Madotsuki: since my character has a, uh, air room

Elf: to try to incorporate some of

Madotsuki: that. [01:02:00]

Elf: Amazing. Dude, all I'm hearing is that we're gonna be wizards in the future.

I, I think that's it.

These forgotten rooms. Wizards are just a precursor. See what's coming.

Dotta: Um,

Elf: awesome guys. Well thank you so much. Thank you. 3 0 2. Uh, so this has been Elf and Dota channeling out from the Quantum Downs. Thank you guys.