Wizard Wednesday Episode 79 Transcription

Wizard Wednesday Ep.79 March 16

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Elf: [00:00:00] It is Wednesday. We are wizards and today is a magical day. We call Wizard Wednesday. Channeling in with quantum style through the quantum downs. This is Elf bear end Doda. Look. Look, we're hosting today. Let's go bear. Are you in the bear cave right now?

Bearsnake: I am in the bear cave. I'm looking outside. The sun just came out.

It's been raining in LA for a week straight. The sun is now upon us. Magic's

Elf: happening. It's about damn time. We've got a huge show today. We've got cult questions. We've got updates, we've got black sins racing, we've got 3D and we've got banks crashing all around us. But first, Let's jump into cult questions, and I think this first one I'm gonna start with is very, [00:01:00] very important.

It's from Night Birdman, and it is for bear, uh, bear. What in the epic hell have you been talking about?

Bearsnake: That's a, that's a great little pun right there. Was that an owl? That, that I,

Elf: yeah, I was, I was supposed to hoot like an owl a after I asked the question and I just did that. So marking it off, marking it off my to-do list.

Bearsnake: Uh, uh, we'll have to ask cosmic if that is, uh, an actual, an actual, uh, soundbite from an owl.

Elf: You still know, she'll know the exact species,

Bearsnake: not just an ai, uh, ai uh, translation. Yeah. Um, okay. So. Listen, going to G D C, uh, game Developer conference. If, if you don't know, it's in San Francisco. Uh, we have a busy week next week.

We're gonna, you know, we'll talk about the event on Tuesday in a bit, but I'll be at G D C meeting with a bunch of different game developers, some meetings with, uh, by Sonic, our game developer with the [00:02:00] universe and, and some other, um, just general meetings, right? And so one of those meetings happens to be Epic games.

Um, it's very exciting. I think, you know, the reason for this is in order for the Univer game to reach as many people as we need it to reach, which is everybody. Uh, cuz everybody deserves to spend a little time, uh, in the universe. Um, you know, we need really fantastic distribution, so Epic, uh, the Epic store, um, which supports, you know, if you play video games, which supports a whole.

Bunch of video games, um, so much like a Steam, much like the Steam store, um, you know, if we can do a deal with them to help distribute the game, I think that would be absolutely massive. I know Jitsu has been, um, preaching this for a long time and, and what's cool is Epic, you know, we knew this but Epic just publicly announced that they already have about 20 [00:03:00] blockchain based games, um, lined up to come on the store, which is fantastic, which means they are Friendlys and we're not just gonna sit down with them and they're gonna shut the door on our faces cuz we start talking about Web three.

So it's exciting. We're gonna sit down, we're gonna talk shop, tell 'em about what we're doing, they're gonna tell us a little bit more about how they're thinking about this space and uh, hopefully, um, we get a little w outta this

Elf: thing. Yeah, it's super exciting. Um, Jitsu shared that Epic games and announcement in the Discord the other day and, and my immediate reaction was just like, The entire market is shitting itself.

Crypto Twitter's losing its mind, and yet the n f T community is just quietly building like nothing's going on, and, and, and, and it's happening. And I, I, I love to see it.

Bearsnake: I, I'm just feeling so darn positive in the midst of all this stuff, I couldn't be, I couldn't feel more [00:04:00] confident about, about what's going on. And, and I just keep getting all of these fantastic notes from some of our favorite people in the space. Um, some are in the cult, some aren't. And, and I'm just hearing the most fantastic things and feedback about how people think about us, how people sort of look at what we're building.

And I think this whole concept of like, we've always sort of been building for where the space was headed, not where it was at the moment. Um, I think we're starting to see that stuff pay off. So it's quite exciting.

Elf: That's very exciting. Um, and bear, while you're on a roll, uh, not only have you been, uh, behind the scenes working on gaming stuff, but you're also organizing a party.

Do you wanna

Bearsnake: tell us about that? Wizards. Wizard's gotta let off some steam sometimes. Do you agree?

Elf: I totally agree.

Bearsnake: Um, and I feel a little pent up. There's a lot of pressure in my body. I need to release some of that. Yeah. Um, and [00:05:00] who better to do it with it? A bunch of wizards. So, um, we will be, I'm working with Locke and Nalgene, uh, who always are there by my side, making sure that this stuff goes off correctly and I don't do or say anything stupid, um, which is difficult.

So kudos to them. Um, We're gonna have, uh, a rooftop event next Tuesday, uh, March 21st. It will be happening during some N F T conference. Uh, it was called N F T L A, then it was called Outer Edge. And then they said we could speak on the panel if, if we paid them, and then I hated them. And so now we don't talk about them.

Um, but I'll be happy during that time, during that week. Um, and it'll be from nine to 12 open bar. We may have some fun gifts for people who show up. It's, it's not like the biggest of all spaces. Um, but so, so please, like when we send out this link, uh, pretty, I think about an hour after Wizard Wednesday ends, we'll [00:06:00] send out an RSVP link.

We'll put it in Discord first. Um, And please sign up. But what I would ask is don't sign up if you don't really plan on coming, just because there's limited space. So if you are rsvp, we're gonna really expect that that body is there with their plus one. And, and I just wanna make sure that, uh, we have enough room for the people who actually show up.

Um, but it'll be fun, uh, and excited to sort of see everybody and, um, yeah, really looking forward to

Elf: it. Yeah. Tanya has a question about the party. She's asking if me and or Doda will be there. I will be there. Doda, how about you? No, I'm not gonna make it. Sorry, B Bear. And I did decide though, that we're gonna make a rubber mask of do's face and, and pay someone to walk around.

Bearsnake: Perfect. It's true. We are gonna do that. And we're also, I don't think we can talk about it yet, but we're gonna be, we're gonna be shooting a really awesome, uh, podcast. Podcast while [00:07:00] we're, while you're in town, elf. So, uh, look out for that in, in the next month or two coming out.

Elf: Hell yeah. Um, yeah, and I just wanna say I'm super excited to see some wizards.

I r l. The last time I saw Wizards obviously was N F T nyc. I really hope to see some new faces, uh, familiar faces, all the faces. Um, so yeah, it's very exciting.

Bearsnake: So, yeah. So just keep a lookout for the link. Um, we'll, we'll post it, uh, an hour after was Wednesday about,

Elf: Yep. Awesome. Um, okay, other questions from the Colt?

Uh, v Mark is asking, uh, who is Scrans named after, if there's a real one? Uh, yeah. Scrans, the, uh, the little scrappy dog, uh, who is a familiar in the Wizards collection. He is actually named after a real dog. Um, it's a brain drains dog, I believe it is a, um, uh, [00:08:00] what's, what's that breed of dog? Uh, Brussels Griffin maybe.

Um, which I think those dogs are so funny looking. Um, and yeah, I mean, it's named after a real dog. It's, uh, this is the collaborative legendary, so you never know where lore, uh, and, uh, content is gonna come from. I

Dotta: love Scrans. I've gotta

Elf: get a Yeah. Is awesome. Um, yeah, so that's Grahams, uh, let's see. Um, oh, uh, cheddar Robert, uh, is, is basically just saying we need to give Night Birdman a shout out, uh, for the alpha recaps every 24 hours.

They are straight comedy. Um, yeah, they're fantastic. Uh, Doda, do you, do you have an opinion on Birdman? Oh, I don't

Dotta: even thi Yeah, they are comedy out, but I think that's a compliment. I think they're just like incredibly useful. Yeah. I would love for someone to kind of tweet them out. It's, it's actually very helpful.

You [00:09:00] kind of can scroll through and find night owls, uh, like, you know, summaries of the last 24 or 12 hours, and it's just like really everything you need to ever know on crypto, you can read from those messages. So Thank you

Elf: Nal. Yeah, that's actually what I just said in the Secret Tower, which is comedic Yes.

But also incredibly insightful. Um, I know, I know Jitsi likes him and I think we lost Jits. He was up here a minute ago.

Bearsnake: I'm just shocked you didn't play the the owl soundbite again.

Elf: I should have. I already closed the window. I need a soundboard, man. Come on, man. Get it together. Jeez. Uh, okay. Uh, Snoop Doug is asking, uh, how did you choose which heads are in both the Wizard and the Warrior Collection?

And don't use the words quantum synchronicity. Okay. We're gonna talk about quantum synchronicity later. Uh, but as far as the Wizard and Warrior heads, uh, you know, it was just a gut feeling. Um, th that's all I can really say. Gut [00:10:00] feeling. Trust it. It'll get you far. Um,

Dotta: well, I, I don't mind talking about this too, which is that like, I think part of it was we wanted to have, I guess what you're asking is around like the overlap, like some of the kind of wizard heads have, let's call it like a, uh, a port over two warriors.

Right. And I think, right. Um, Well for one, even if they look like they're the same head, they're not, because the pixel sizes are actually different. Wizards are 50 by 50. Warriors are 60 by 60. Um, two. So they're all redrawn even if they look the same. Two, I think that like we particularly didn't want to kind of, let's say devalue or inflate the supply of a lot of the, the original heads, right?

There's no, um, you know, there's a lot of the heads that don't really appear. You know, one of the things that kind of like came up in conversation was, for example, is like, oh, I don't own the, the Dota wizard. Is there a Dota Warrior? And it was like, no, clearly not. Like Dota is [00:11:00] a singular kind of character in the universe.

There's no warrior. Um, you know, maybe there's, maybe there's a race of fuzzy puppets out there somewhere in the universe, like, Whereas family came from, we'll see. Uh, but there was not gonna be a one-off total warrior. So I think that, and then a lot of the, the, the warriors also just don't make sense, right?

So for example, um, there's lots of like sort of the creatures from the, the universe that are quite magical that it didn't make sense to have a warrior that doesn't have control of magic. Maybe you could talk a little bit of some of that. Cause I don't think, for example, there's no skeleton warriors. Am I right

Elf: about that?

I now, I can't remember. I don't think there are. No, um, yeah. Yeah. You know, I, one of my like, just creative, um, guidelines is like, I love creating systems and structures in any sort of given creative, um, uh, arena. But then I love to like, mess it up and [00:12:00] break it. Mm-hmm. Um, and so that's why you'll see like skulls in the Wizards Collection, but also in the Souls collection.

You'll see Wizard Cobalts, but then there's also a lot of Cobalt warriors. Um, the hat colors, like they don't follow the perfect, uh, uh, standard hues on the, on the, on the light spectrum, like, because Brown is in there. But then again, brown used to be orange. Like, you know, there there's all these fun little wrinkles that I like to put into these systems, uh, that I just think makes a world more rich.

Um, and so that's why I cross pollinated a lot of the heads in the collections.

Dotta: Um, it's surprising that there's any cobalt wizards at all, frankly.

Elf: It is. It is. And and so no ex I love, I love that you brought that up. Like the idea of a cobal wizard is almost an oxymoron. Um, Sorry, Jesse. Yeah. But, but, but like, at the same time, like, like maybe you have to be a dumbass to like really wield magic in an [00:13:00] effective way.

I mean, you know, it's, uh, again,

Bearsnake: sorry,

Dotta: Jesse,

Bearsnake: that's the quote of the week. Maybe you have to be a dumbass to wield real

Elf: magic. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the point is, is like, it's, it's not like necessarily always a purely intellectual pursuit. Um, you know, there, there, there's, there's the archetype of the, uh, the, uh, the, the, the, the wise fool, right? Um, there, there's a lot of like wisdom in being foolish.

Um, I, I love that archetype. Uh, so anyway, we're, we're getting very deep into lore. Um, but yeah, good question. Snoop Doug. Um, So, let's see. I, I actually think maybe that's all. Oh, no, Tonya has a question. Uh, Tonya says, how is it halfway through March already? Uh, time, uh, flows differently for everyone. Um, I could answer this in several different ways.

Uh, the planet is just [00:14:00] that far in its orbit and, um, humans call that halfway through March. Um, but clearly Tanya is perceiving time in, in a much different way, as I think we all are. Uh, so I don't know, Tanya. I mean, it's a mystery. It, it just, it truly is. Um, uh, okay. I think that's actually all the questions that I see.

Um, okay. So, yeah, let me, let me pivot to this next thing. Uh, just a fun thing happened yesterday that I did. Um, So a 16 z the, uh, preeminent venture capital fund. They were doing a workshop yesterday in Santa Monica. Um, and they invited one of us from Magic Machine, uh, to come and sort of teach a panel of young entrepreneurs about media in web three.

So I went, [00:15:00] um, and it was great and I really enjoyed it, and there was even a film crew there. Uh, and so this may appear in a documentary at some point. Um, I'm gonna go ahead and brag and say I slayed this panel. Um, but really the most fun observation was, uh, I brought a really large bag of Forgotten Rooms swag.

Um, and I handed it out to a lot of people there. And, you know, first of all, like tech startup swag is usually kind of lame in my opinion because it's usually like just a boring corporate logo on a solid colored t-shirt with maybe some pithy log line. Uh, but thankfully forgotten Ruins swag is not that.

Um, in fact, you know, we might even not wanna call it swag. It's cuz it's just way cooler than that. You know, we have really cool shit. We call it [00:16:00] Drip. Perfect. Yes. Our drip is than all the other drip. Um, yeah, because we have like, we have cool characters on it and we have, uh, fun phrases like, behold my quantum style.

Um, I brought stickers, I brought comic books. Um, and, and I just gotta say that like everyone there fucking loved it. Like they were, they went into a frenzy, um, just like, like trying to grab a shirt or a sticker. Uh, and, and it was just like a really fun moment, uh, seeing people react to, to our, our drip. Um, so yeah, I, uh, well done, uh, to all the drip designers on Magic Machine.

What,

Dotta: uh, what sort of stuff did you talk about on your panel?

Elf: Uh, yeah, they were, so they asked a lot of questions just about, um, like how to build a strong community. That was probably the most interesting part of the panel to me. Um, they asked about like, [00:17:00] like how should a web three, uh, project think about media beyond NFTs?

Um, which obviously Magic Machine and Forgotten Ruins has a lot to say about that. Um, they asked about royalties, which was a very sticky subject. Um, a lot of the young, um, entrepreneurs there had, you know, just their own questions. Uh, another interesting question that came up was like, like the inherent contradiction of, of N F T collections, which is, you know, the value of the tokens are often tied to the supply of the token, and you never wanna, uh, inflate that.

And yet you want to scale into a larger audience as much as you can. How do you do that without inflating the token supply? Um, so yeah, those were the sorts of questions we, we talked about. Hm. Uh,[00:18:00]

okay. I guess there is on that. Um,

Bearsnake: I do know that you came into the Bear Cave right afterwards and you were glowing. You were like, you were like doing, basically doing jumping jacks in the bear cave. You were so stoked about how it went.

Elf: It made me very happy. Oh, I was super stoked. Super stoked. Um, yeah, just cuz again, the swag, the, just the receptivity of it.

Um, I also met one of the people from, uh, the Crypto punks team. Um, she was awesome. Uh, and Crypto punks loves forgotten ruins. Um, let me just put that out there. Is,

Bearsnake: is receptivity a word by the way?

Elf: Uh, yes. Okay.

Yes. It's, sorry,

Bearsnake: I'm teasing. Sorry. It's now,

Elf: it's now. Um, okay, cool. Uh, let's talk about 3D for a little bit. Um, it's getting closer and closer [00:19:00] to being released. Uh, we talked about it a little bit last week. Um, there was a little bit of, I don't know, not really controversy, just kind of, kind of an open question about like how to distribute these.

Um, and, and the question on the table was do we make them open source and downloadable to everyone or do we token gate them? Um, and, and we, you know, we, we, we said, you know, if, if you have ideas on this, please DM us. Uh, and, and we certainly got some dms and we got some really good arguments. Um, And so, you know, I, I wanna say ultimately we decided to leave them totally open source and downloadable to everyone.

But, but let me sort of like go through the reasons why maybe we wouldn't do that, and then why we ultimately decided to do that. Um, so, so the argument to keep them token G and limited, uh, or limit the use of every character to [00:20:00] the owners is, is, is a good argument. Um, number one, it gives exclusive utility to the token.

Um, obviously token utility is one of the many ways to make a token valuable. Uh, so naturally giving this exclusive right to the use of the 3D rig, uh, makes sense. Um, furthermore, uh, if anyone in the world can just use a character you own, uh, it may feel, uh, less like you actually own it. Um, another good argument to Token Gate is I myself have long argued that this is this, it is this very sense of ownership that actually incentivizes people to create and build.

Um, this was one of the key points in my TED Talk. Uh, and I, I basically said, said that it's this new layer of ownership. That's one of the reasons people are so inspired to build and create for their [00:21:00] characters. It makes them feel special. Um, and so I think those are like the two main reasons to Token Gate, the 3D models.

Um, but let me, let me tell you why we decided against that. Um, But before I do, let me just say, there is actually one instance where they will remain token G uh, and that is in other gaming metas. Um, and so when you, uh, connect your wallet to say Nifty Island or some other 3D meta, uh, you will obviously only be able to play as a character that you own.

Um, you can't run around these metas with other people's digital property. Um, there may be other tools and ways around this, but that's sort of out of our control. Um, but as far as making them openly downloadable from our website, uh, so first it should be noted that the pixel walk cycles are currently openly downloaded, uh, to anyone who wants them.

Uh, and keeping this open has actually been [00:22:00] a huge catalyst for cult content. Um, Everything from really small animations to entire derivative collections, to mini games. Um, leaving the these pixel assets open and available to all has been really good. Um, but also, and, and this is the real sticking point for me, this is actually what solves all of it.

Um, so we are designing this 3D dashboard in such a way that all of the relevant information, uh, on the character is immediately visible. Uh, the name of the character, the token id, the owner of the character, and even the lore is all displayed alongside the 3D character rig. If a stranger wants to download your character, they should know who that character is and who owns it, because to me, this is not just about the 3D character rig.

The, the 3D character rig is just a mechanical [00:23:00] component. Um, and, and that mechanical component serves a greater purpose, which is world building and storytelling. Um, and it is that world building that is by far the most important thing this entire project does. I, I mean, even yesterday at this panel, I, I kept coming back to this, this, this is what, this is what makes forgotten rooms special.

I mean, it's nothing without this. And so it's, it's you all in the cult. It's the creative capital that you're spending on these characters that you own. That, that's really the only important thing here. The pencils, the pixels, the polygons, polygons. It's, it's all in service to that. Um, and so, you know, that said, I, I hope this eases some potential consternation you may have about making these totally open to the public.

Just rest assured that like, whoever uses your character, they're gonna know who that character is, who [00:24:00] owns it. Um, and, and, and they're gonna, they're gonna see all the love and care that you've put into them. Um, so anyway, that's my spiel. I've been talking a lot do to bear. You guys wanna chime in?

Dotta: Yeah. I think that with the, when I think about the 3D models, I, I think that it, it's really important to kind of, um, Understand that the memes are more important than any physical thing, right?

It's this like, pla the platonic ideal of your wizard is more important than like the, the any particular image of the wizard. And in fact, maybe replace platonic ideal with just like ownership of the, of the private key that controls the NFT token really is, is kind of the meaningful value part. Um, and, or like, maybe it's, maybe it's like the more physical value part, right?

The, like the value of the N F T is outside of just looking at the asset, right? It comes from the providence value of the token. It comes from token holder benefits, like, you know, [00:25:00] airdrops staking rewards. Like it comes from the idea that when you own that token, you have this community belonging, right?

You have discord access, but more than that you have sort of like the status that kind of is associated with that. Um, You know, it comes through commercial use of the IP and, and, and just because someone can sort of download the 3D model doesn't give them a commercial Right. To your wizard or even to that model.

So one of the things that we're kind of talking about 3D models is that, you know, it, they, it, they're basically the same rights by which the rest of the wizards are under, are licensed under, which is you can download the images, anyone can download the images and use them for non-commercial use. I basically think that like the, um, kind of the nouns model of like provenance value or really this idea of like creative commons is, is right in so far as it's this idea which is.

It's worse to be ignored than to be, uh, than to be overshared. And, and by eliminating barriers for people to like, use and share your ideas, [00:26:00] um, then, then you'll be able to like, sort of replicate the meme, right? And the age of infinite content, the risk is not that it's overused and stolen, but rather that it's like ignored and never seen at all.

And so it's the, this premise is that the value is actually increased when it's shared, not decreased. What I think CC Zero gets wrong though is this idea that like, um, if you make well, is that they basically give up this, this idea of commercial, the commercial opportunity to the ip. Um, uh, and sort of in, in, uh, in our case of course, we see that there's commercial value in the ip and that will still always stay with, with the owner.

Elf: Yep. Yep. Yeah, I, I talked yesterday a lot about culture and how valuable culture is and about how, you know, the, the metaverse and, and, and NFTs. It, it's really all just a vector for culture, and the way for cul culture to become valuable is [00:27:00] simply that it spreads. Mimetic culture is, is the driver for, for all media.

Um, and so, you know, I I, I, I think you're gonna want your characters, your IP, to spread far and wide. Um, and, and, and again, for me, it's just like, as long as they, anyone, any person who would download your character can see upfront who owns it, who, what's the name of this character, what is their biography, then that to me is, is a really good solve for this.

Dotta: I agree. Yeah. And I think that like, you know, I think that one of the things that we're learning as we go, um, is this idea that like if things are too complicated, people will just opt for something that's more simple. Um, like it's the same idea around like kind of. Um, I don't know even how Amazon or e-commerce might think about a shopping cart, which is like, you want one click checkout.

And [00:28:00] what you don't want is for someone to have to like read through and understand this like web of kind of IP rights in order to be able to like, use your ideas. This is why you see, for example, um, you know, let's say Moon Birds and toads and in sort of like every, there's all sorts of derivatives, but you also see them like everywhere is because people just kind of know right outta the gate.

They're like, I know it's CC zero, I can just copy it. And there's basically no consequences, no problems. And so I think that, um, you know, that's one of the things that I wanna actually avoid with the 3D models is I actually want for people to know, like, if you're building a game and you want to use, you know, my wizard to as like a character in your game and it's sort of this like single player quest or whatever, you can just download it, just download it and use it.

It saves you time and it spreads our ideas. Um, and I think that that's a really powerful force. Um, And then, you know, as long as it's non-commercial, right? Once it becomes commercial, then we'll sort of deal with kind of making sure that the value is [00:29:00] spread in the right direction.

Elf: It looks like Night Owl Birdman keeps trying to come up, but he, he can't connect.

Dotta: Yeah. I know that Jitsu was having the same problem too. There's just been a lot of, like, people are not able to connect. So, sorry,

Elf: everyone. Um, I, I know that the Black Sands, uh, I think Legist wants to come up eventually, so Legist, I, I, whenever you're ready. Um, try to connect.

Dotta: I'm

Bearsnake: inviting. I'm inviting jitsu, I'm inviting Black Sands.

Uh, I'm inviting people up, but it doesn't seem to be taking

Dotta: Damnit.

Bearsnake: Hold on.

Dotta: It's just gonna

Bearsnake: be the three of us. Black Sands. Black Sands. Is that There's Black Sands Night Night, Al.

Cult Member: Hey. Hey, everyone. How's it going?

Bearsnake: Oh, weird. It's, it's, Hey, it's just the cobal. Hey. What's going on? Hey.

Elf: Uh, so Black Sands, uh, you know, I, I think everybody at this point knows who Black Sands is.

One of the, uh, uh, best world building [00:30:00] projects out there for, for forgotten ruins. You know, it's far more than just pony races. Black Sands is, is a full, uh, a full, uh, I don't know, lore effort. Um, so you, you've got a brand new event, uh, a new race coming up. Uh, why don't you tell us about it?

Cult Member: Yeah, no, thank you.

Definitely. Uh, Black sand is, uh, as, as you guys know, is a city in the universal, much more than than the pony races and much more we continue building. But you're right, today's a special day. Cause uh, it's, uh, the races are, are back. We, we had some fun we racing in 2022 and finally after our min started for makeup on.

We are, we are back to racing in 2023. And before I go into in 20 details, I wanna take a second to, to thank all the people that actually work towards this. Uh, not only the artists that worked on the art of our collection, but special [00:31:00] thanks to Oral, oral, all the devs that work on the game and on the site.

So from Bill that has been literally working two months nonstop to make everything work, which I'm super impressed when, when things actually go so smooth. And then also pleasure that has been helping since the very beginning, but also very recently, Pedro and Not Mock that have come in and really brought Blacks into another level.

So really lot going on, a lot of people involved and I'm really thankful for everyone. And now before we go into the details, also wanna thank Lee for being so good with the sounds and music. It really brought Blackson to another level, so pause there for a second. Thank you everyone. The cult is amazing.

We literally just come together and we magic, we make stuff and, and it's been great.

Elf: Yeah, I, I, you know, I, I've said it before, but I just, I love all the new ponies out there. [00:32:00] Um, they're so cool and, and I love the one of ones so. Um, the, like, I, the, lately I've been seeing the little dwarf ponies, which is like, it's, it's just so extra. I mean, a pony is already a dwarf horse and now you're dwarfing the ponies.

They're fricking adorable.

Cult Member: Indeed. They are mesh, they're made something unique with the, uh, I hope I'm pronouncing correctly, but pick my ponies. Oh yeah. Pick me ponies. Yeah, pick

Elf: me ponies.

Cult Member: Just so funny. And two have been found by the way. So there are still more to be minted, which

Elf: also, yes. Speaking of, ha, has my goat been minted yet?

Your

Cult Member: goat has not been minted yet. Ok. Okay. Okay. Someone can still grab it, someone can still, uh, can still get him. And, uh, every single 1 0 1 will have special abilities in the races, but actually [00:33:00] brings me to my next point. Uh, or my previous point that the races are actually back on Today. We started the race, um, and registration is open so everybody can still go register on the website, which is actually a really fun experience that has been put together by the team, uh, with some very fun sound effects.

So make sure to do it with sound on to register. You just really need a makeup pony or a 1 0 1. Soon enough. Also, the Forgotten Rules Pony will be available, available again to raise. Uh, but so you just need to go on the website, get the makeup pony, uh, either minted or if you have it, just go on the website register, and then on our channel in the Forgotten Rooms discord, you can just go and play.

Uh, I think maybe one shout out to to Mala because. They won the first championship in 2022, and apparently they're already leading [00:34:00] the race today, so that is just very impressive. So, Mala, congrats again for a great start.

Elf: Yeah, no, I don't know. No. Mala seems, uh, undefeatable at this point. Um, it's gonna take, uh, a whole herd of pygmy ponies or something.

Indeed, or, or maybe, uh, Josh the blind can make a epic comeback. I don't know.

Dotta: I've been watching Josh all week. He's great.

Bearsnake: Is Josh still blind?

Dotta: He's still blind. He's doing better. Uh, he doesn't eat the blue bonnets out here, so if you don't know, Texas has these like flowers like called blue bonnets and, um, They, um, they, you, you see them like, really, like tacky moms will use them for like decorations, like wallpaper or something.

But actually in real life they're really quite beautiful. They're like this vibrant, vibrant blue. Um, but Josh does not eat them. So it's really fun. I go head over there in [00:35:00] the morning, hop in the pool, go feed Josh, walk through the blue bonnets. It's, I'm really living my best life.

Elf: Uh, Josh, if you're not gonna eat the blue bo bonnets, you need to get on the racetrack.

Um, cuz you almost got last place last time. That's all I'm say almost. Yeah.

Bearsnake: Do you ever, do you ever, do you ever ride Josh or is that, is that a no-go?

Dotta: Uh, not, he can't see. So it's kind of not anymore. Yeah, not anymore.

Elf: Um, well, legis this, this sounds awesome. Uh, is, uh, is there anything else you wanna say about, uh, the, the races?

Yes.

Cult Member: Uh, we will make it a point to see who wins between bear, do and f in this race. So make sure to register your, your makeup on.

Dotta: Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah,

Bearsnake: I was gonna say, yeah, I, I almost don't wanna register cuz we all know what's gonna happen if I register. I just, you're, it's just, I don't wanna embarrass el

Elf: You're gonna do worse than a blind [00:36:00] horse.

Is that, is that what you're gonna do?

Cult Member: Maybe Last thing I wanna say actually the, the 1 0 1 that was made by Tanya and Cosmic has been very recently minted and is the next one to be revealed. So really excited for everyone to see that because it's an amazing one that come from, from two amazing artists.

Elf: Oh, okay. You, you're not gonna tell us what

Cult Member: it is.

Nope. Very soon though.

Elf: Very soon. Let me, let me guess. It's, uh, it's a bird. Mm, interesting.

Cult Member: Could it be the very first bird, bird ever? I dunno. You'll see, you'll

Elf: see. Yeah. I'm, I'm looking through the Black Sands teal. Uh, this Raptor that was recently minted is amazing. Uh, Ilian, is that

Cult Member: his name? Yes. Custom years.

One of the custom years one. Oh, ones

Elf: beautiful. And, and then I see, uh, let's see, the Blanco worm, [00:37:00] um, that, that Bear Snake is riding.

Dotta: Yeah,

Cult Member: that's, that's indeed Blanco's, uh, 1 0 1 special one in the Egypt. Oh

Elf: man, that's so good. I, one of my favorites is, is Quaia the Duck. That one is so ridiculous.

Cult Member: That is really, really amazing.

From, from a story on which, uh, last minute news, there's gonna be another 1 0 1 from, from them coming up. So, and that's. That's amazing too. So I'm looking forward for that to be minted as well.

Elf: Yeah. So many good ones. So many good ones. Oh, and, and then, and then the bicycle. Oh, so many good ones.

Cult Member: Yeah. The bicycle, the whole of cats should own the bicycle, but they don't want it apparently.

So.

Elf: Yeah. Well, the Hall of Cats, that's a whole other, whole other thing. Um, okay. Uh, anything else? That's

Cult Member: it. Thank you so much for the time and hope everybody enjoys the [00:38:00] races. Should

Elf: be fun. Awesome Mag guess. Thank you. Uh, let's, uh, let's talk about, uh, the banks crashing. I, I, I wanna dive into this for just a minute.

Um, and, and, and I just wanna start off right away saying obviously, Uh, the banks crashed because we, on Wizard Wednesday, were talking about this shadowy banking cabals who control the world behind the scenes. Shortly after we discussed all the conspiracies around that, the banks had a massive run, quantum synchronicity or reality, you decide.

Um, but bardo, uh, you know, we don't have to get too deep into it, but like, how freaking stressed out were, were we this weekend?

Bearsnake: So stressed? What, what weekend?

Dotta: Yeah.

Elf: Seriously. Yeah. It was nuts. Uh, magic. We were, yeah, it was, it was awful. It was awful. [00:39:00] But, you know, we, we don't have to get into all of the details.

All I really wanna say is like, you can't kill a wizard. Um, we survived and we're gonna thrive. And, um, Yeah, it was, it was just, it was, it was, yeah. I'll talk

Dotta: about it. I'll, I'll talk about all the for details. Go for me. You know, for me, one of the things that we've always tried to do is be as like, transparent as possible with regards to like, on chain funds.

You know, for me, I don't think that it's very productive to kind of like open magic machines, books of the entire cult, because there's just like only downside. But like for the most part, what we've tried to do is sort of like have a, a NOIs safe where we had like several million dollars for, um, you know, this past year.

Um, and as things have kind of like gone sideways, we've started pulling more money off. So for example, um, gosh, I can't even remember the last time, the last time things went wonky, like in between Luna and this, I can't even remember what it was. [00:40:00] I was telling people in the call, I was like, Hey, we've got this money in, this notes is safe.

Here's the address. I'm pulling some off because I'm being a little bit like skittish about it. Um, the same thing then well, I've been telling people for a long time, they're like, oh yeah, you know, we have a couple million dollars in U S D C. We're fine. We're fine. Because, you know, U S D C is backed 80% by treasuries.

There's no problem. No problem, no problem. Right? And then of course, this weekend it's all of a sudden like, oh shoot. Like there's a problem. Like U S D C is whatever, 90, 80, 70 cents. Um, and I think that like I, there's basically like every reason to believe there was like all these like very rational relations to believe on like Friday, Saturday, um, even Sunday morning, that is like, look, the market is overreacting.

Um, and U S D C will probably come back while at the same time basically looking at it and saying, um, you know, we've actually never seen like all of the stable coins that have kind of [00:41:00] like lost the peg so hard have, um, Have failed. And even if U S D C does have these treasuries to back it, who's to say that kind of like, by the time the final tally is counted that we're going to get, you know, uh, 90 cents on the dollar, 95 cents on the dollar, whatever.

Like at some point the open market was actually like 97, 90 8 cents on the dollar. And it was just like, for me, I actually reached the point where I was actually able to pay, um, a few tens of thousands of dollars to kind of secure the bag versus like subjecting myself to, uh, well Monday morning when it was kind of known that the entire market would be sort of fleeing from U S D C.

So I actually ended up cutting, um, all of the U S D C that we had, um, and basically getting it out through a bank account another way, um, and it cost some money versus just like waiting until Monday. And, you know, I think hindsight's 2020, right? Like Monday morning rolls around and all of the people are taking victory lap saying, oh, this [00:42:00] was like so obvious, so obvious, so obvious.

And I can tell you what it, to me, it was not at all obvious that U S D C was gonna like, survive the night. I think that like legislators did the right thing and kind of bailing out the kind of, uh, the banks, or at least like, by ensuring deposits beyond the 250 K limit. Um, but I think that like you could, you don't have to look very far in history to know that like regulators aren't going to do the right thing fast enough all the time.

And so for me it was really more about just like, I'm going to pay this extra margin to, to make sure that, that like, magic me machine doesn't lose, you know, two years of runway or whatever. So, uh, yeah, it was, there was a lot, there was a very, very stressful weekend, a lot of just trying to like, protect the bag.

And I, I know that a lot of people were even more stressed out than we were.

Elf: It was incredibly stressful. Um, very tough. Talks were had, um, everything's fine now. Um, but, but yeah, I mean, yeah, we don't [00:43:00] have to get too deep into that. I, I, one thing I do wanna call out though, is like, to me it was super, here's what's super interesting, uh, that the crypto market rallied on the, on the, these banks crashing.

And like the narrative is seemingly, uh, people wanted to put their funds into safe havens and they turn to Bitcoin anese. Um, I is, do you, do you, in your opinion, do you think there's more to this narrative or do you think that's it?

Dotta: Mm. I think, well, what do you mean there's always more? What do you mean? Well just are you talking

Bearsnake: about like the, the, like the, the decoupling and like crypto representing something that is Yeah. I, I, I'm

Elf: safer than the traditional system. I, I'm simply saying like, did the, did the crypto market rally simply because people saw Bitcoin and east as a safe haven?

Is, is it, is the, no, I don't, no, I don't think

Dotta: so. Okay, go for it. They saw stable coins as a risk, the mar, this is like a fake rally. That's just like [00:44:00] stable coins are a risk, and even your own bank account is a risk because like, it wasn't clear until like, It's still not even that clear. Like to what degree over 250 k your bank account is sort of insured.

And so that's what was weird is it was like, okay, let we have 2 million. We're gonna pull it out, we're gonna pull it out. Where on Sunday, the, the on Sunday or like even Saturday, the question was literally like, are we gonna pull that 2 million into our regional bank when there's actually a decent chance our regional bank might fail?

And it was just like, no. Like the only safe haven was to go into ETH because it's like, well, at least in like within a couple of years, ETH is gonna be better. And that's what I think you're basically seeing in the pump, in, in Bitcoin and e ETH right now is just something like, uh, It's not so much that it's like the, the traditional banking narrative is over.

It's like the traditional banking system is like at, in a really precarious position, right? You're seeing, uh, you're seeing that like Wells Fargo is like [00:45:00] putting out a bond to like raise some money. You're seeing, uh, credit Swiss is like having stress where their like biggest investor won't add more.

You're basically seeing this like contagion throughout the entire traditional banking system. So in that sense, may it's, but it's not so much that it's like I'm buying Bitcoin cuz I believe in that. So maybe you're right. Right? It's like I'm buying Bitcoin because everything else is like

Elf: a risk. Yeah.

That that's, that's all I'm saying is like, did the crypto market then, I suppose you're right cause people saw Bitcoin and Etha as safe. Oh, sure. All right. Sure. Yeah, yeah. No, but, but it's interesting because like, you know, it's, it's one thing for all the Bitcoin evangelists and the people who have faith in crypto that, you know, they've been trotting out that narrative for almost a decade now, which is like, this is the store of value.

This is the safe haven asset because it's not subject to the, the whims and the fallibilities of human beings. You know, it's one thing to say that, but to like actually see it in [00:46:00] action and, and, and people put their money where their mouth is, that's quite another. Um, and this was like a, a major test to that, that narrative.

Um, and, and so it is just, my question is like, is that actually why. The rallies market because they believe in the narrative? Or is there something else

Dotta: going on? I

Bearsnake: don't, I think, you know, I think it's, I think it's both, right? I think we were, the most important thing for us was protecting the company's funds so we could continue doing what we wanted to do for, you know, for the next couple years.

And I think, like in the short term, yeah, we, we, we thought ETH was the best possible place to do it in a very short amount of time. And I think that's what we're seeing now. And to be

Dotta: clear, we've have a lot of money in fiat already. Um, yeah. That's not like this was the only $2 million that we had, but two, whatever, 2 million still 2 million, right.

That's like runway for our company. So it's like totally. We don't wanna lose that. [00:47:00] No,

Bearsnake: that, so that's the context. But I think to your point, elf, it, it's like, I think that's part of the reason why things are, we came to the same conclusion that a lot of people came to, and that is, well, we're scared to even put this in our bank, which is, so the answer is like, yes in that regard to your question, but then it's like, we're not willing to put that 2 million up and, and, and like sort of walk through the, the potential volatility over the next year or two and just keep it in ease, right?

Like it was like we were parking it for a moment and then we're gonna put it back into the traditional part of it, at least into the traditional banking system. So I think it's like, it's a more, um, it's a more sort of layered, I don't think it's just like a black and white answer, I guess is, is my point.

Dotta: Yep.

Elf: It was

Dotta: stressful. I don't know. I think that like, I don't, well, yeah, I think that, well, I. I do think [00:48:00] that it is basically overall bullish for crypto, right? It's, it, it's very clearly bullish for crypto insofar as like, uh, okay, so for example, one of the things that we're talking about is like, well, we can't put our money in a real bank account.

First off, that's crazy. Crazy. It's 2023, and we're saying we can't put our money in a real bank account because we, unless we go to insanity, unless we go to a structurally important bank, right? So now we're talking about, uh, you know, chase and whatever the big four and, uh, So that's also a problem. It's like, well, why don't we just go buy treasuries directly?

Like if we can get 4% on our money per year and then have like pretty quick access to it, why don't we just go get treasuries? And so you, it's basically this situation where like, uh, there's, there's really like two banks, but one bank, which is like you bank with the Fed who prints the money and you like get an earn because you just buy a bunch of treasuries and then you just keep a bank account that's 250 k for we're operating [00:49:00] expenses.

And then the other bank is basically Bitcoin. Bitcoin beneath, right? We keep our money on chain because at least that's something that can't be, uh, inflated away by sort of bureau bureaucrats. And so I, I do think it is like this historic moment for cryptocurrency and it'll just take some time to play out.

Bearsnake: And I think we, I think, you know, one thing to that, that's always so reassuring in, in very stressful times when there's a lot of money sort of at stake to be able to get on the phone with you and Elf and to have like, uh, these very high pressure conversations and having everybody keep cool and sort of be able to work through this methodically and be on the same page.

It's just such a pleasure. It's not rare. Yeah. It's not rare.

Dotta: Yeah. One of the things that, one of the things that we'll do basically is we fire up a Google doc or an Ocean Doc or whatever. We're like, okay, what are our options? You know, number one, we just decide to wait it out. We bet that, you know, U S D C uh, comes through, right?

And, you [00:50:00] know, turns out actually that would have been the, like, highest output, right? U S D C did come through. That's actually incredibly bullish for U S D C that they sort of suffered from this deep hagging mechanism. And then both Coinbase and Circle and everyone came through and, and it worked fine.

So that's actually a really important stress testing moment for U S D C that will in time instill a bit of confidence in the, in the stable coin. But at the same time, I think that like, you know, you're basically playing this, uh, even a, a similar bet to the people that, you know, when, when, when U S D C D pegged to like, let's say 90 cents, and then everyone's like, oh, this is the easiest play ever.

I'm gonna make 10% on my money. I'm gonna sell my ETH and buy U S D C. Well, like you did that, but what, you know, that's not really very clear thinking in terms of like a risk and reward payoff, right? Because what you're basically saying is like, I am risking a hundred percent of my money for to earn 10%.

That's like a bad risk reward tradeoff, uh, in terms of like, you know, that's not Kelly optimal of like a, uh, of a trade to [00:51:00] make. And in fact, the people that did that, they made 10% on their U S D C, but ETH actually went up by more than 10%. And so you ended up behind for it as if you just held onto ETH anyway.

Right. I think in our case too, we're not trying to kind of trade magic machine as. You know, we have crypto exposure, but that's not, our main business is not like, sort of speculating on these markets. And so I think for us it was something like, well, that option doesn't really work because like, you know, we don't wanna put like a year of runway at risk because we just, like w we're, we know sucking hopium for example, right?

So we'll sit down and we'll be like, okay, well we could do this, we could do this, we could do this much, eat this much. So yeah, it's part of the process with us over this weekend is just like sitting down, writing it all out. And then I think what actually happened is we wrote out and we decided one thing on Friday night.

We woke up on Saturday and we, I'd had a change of heart and we worked through a second, you know, we had some new information and we worked through a second, uh, a second set of circumstances there. So yeah, it's, [00:52:00] it, it's good to have a crew of people who can kind of work through those things.

Bearsnake: And I would, and I think we said it, we said it to ourselves a bunch of times.

Like I would, I would make that move. A hundred times over. Oh, yeah. You know, losing a little bit of money to secure the, the health, uh, again, it's not all of our money at all, but like it's a significant amount. I will lose a little bit off the top to secure, you know, the unstabilize, the, the greater good every time.

Yeah,

Dotta: exactly. Like even when it was Sunday night and the, they'd said they would, you know, the, the, like the Fed basically said that they would insure the accounts. They said, you know, uh, Silicon Valley Bank was, money was gonna come out, all these things, right. Even after all those announcements, U S D C on the open markets was still only 98 cents.

And even then I was like, I still would do it if it, it would be better to get out now Sunday night and to pay a little bit of extra because you really don't know everyone's gonna say that. So that [00:53:00] way. Well, it's not worse Monday morning. You don't wanna be the last person out when the fire exit opens.

Elf: Um, damn strike. Yep. Uh, so, so there's your transparency. There you go. But yeah, wi point is, is, uh, we survived. You can't kill a wizard and, uh, we're here to stay. Uh, and not even a bank run is gonna take us down. Um, so yeah, I just, I just wanted to pivot back to 3D real quick. There's been some, uh, chatter in the secret tower.

Um, night Al was trying to come up and, and basically he wrote out what he was gonna say. Um, essentially he, having the, the pixel walk cycles has really helped him make cult content. Um, but a lot of people in, uh, the secret tower are talking around this idea of like, Maybe on the website, like making some kind of toggle or [00:54:00] checkbox, uh, to like, give consent to use the character rig.

Um, you know, th this is actually something I thought about myself. I, I'm not so sure we'll do it, at least in this v1 I, if things do get out of control, um, maybe we'll do that. Um, but I, I, I, I think, I think just my, my gut reaction to like not doing it right away is that I think most people by default just won't even bother to toggle their permission on, um, even though they maybe don't care if their character is used.

Um, yeah. If I

Dotta: were to do something like that, I would be one, I would wait until it's a problem. And then two, I, I would still default on that. If you're just like, I don't want someone to use my wizard, then I would have it toggle off. Right. And then even then, If the wizard changes hands, I would flip it back on again that I would actually require [00:55:00] each new owner to, to kind of close it off.

I think open by default is the right approach. Cuz we're talking non-commercial here. Yep,

Elf: yep. Yeah, no, it, it's interesting. It's, it's very, if people feel very passionately about this, like having a, a toggle of some kind, um, I guess DM us, but I don't know. It just, it just hasn't really seemed to be a huge problem yet.

Um, so I don't know. Ongoing conversation. Uh, yeah, for sure. We'll negotiate it as a community. Yep. Yep. Um, okay. Let's, uh, let's talk about some, some cult content. I've been, uh, reading the, uh, the Infamous Cult Chronicle today. It's, uh, I can't believe it's week eight of the Cult Chronicle. Um, yeah. Um, insane.

Tanya, I I just, I, again, thank you so much for doing this. I love it. Um, and Tanya, I hope I, I hope I get to see you at the party. I, I know you, I think you live around here, so, um, yeah. Looking forward to [00:56:00] that, uh, you and Eagle. Um, maybe we can convince the DJ at the party to play, uh, Eagle Song. Um, Alright.

Dope peepee. Yeah, exactly. Or bear, maybe you can perform it live.

Dotta: I'm

Bearsnake: probably just gonna sing it. I mean, yeah. I mean, Eagle will sing it and then I'll come in on the little, with my big, with my oversized, uh, clock,

Dotta: um, network. Okay.

Elf: Seriously, that would be amazing if we can make that happen.

Um, okay. Yeah. So let's go over cult content. Uh, yeah. So obviously Black Sands racing, uh, a new race is, is, is occurring. Um, Um, we talked about that. Uh, Daniella Lutra did a really nice piece about the Black Sands recently. Um, always amazing work from Daniella. Uh, and then speaking of always amazing work, uh, mark fine, uh, dropped a really cool, um, uh, work, uh, a process video of, uh, one [00:57:00] of his illustrations.

Uh, mark fine. Always amazing work. Um, Emma did these really cute, uh, I guess like emojis of, of her swamp wizard. Uh, just fricking adorable. I, I think Emma's, uh, wizard might be one of the cutest in the entire cult. Um, Uh, ros, T c g, uh, wack, uh, put himself in, uh, on, on one of the Allian trainer cards. Uh, and a, a beautiful card.

Um, and then speaking of T c g, uh, maple Dad, uh, okay, I, I love this stuff. Maple Dad makes, he made this really cool, uh, place mat to play. T Ros, t c g. Um, I know that I still love my place mat of, uh, of the, uh, the universe map. Um, Doda, I saw you using your place mat recently, right? Yeah, it was

Dotta: so fun. [00:58:00] Uh, my daughter and I have been playing magic more.

She's getting pretty good. And, uh, yeah, we played out on the picnic table and had some snacks and played magic and it was really fun because we have a picnic table and well, picnic tables aren't super flat and they get really dusty with pollen and acorns and stuff. And so it was very convenient to have that Maple dad forgotten univer map play mat because it was just so clean and we had a nice time.

Elf: Yep, yep. Yeah, I love the place mat. Um, and then, uh, entropy, um, entropy, eq, uh, I think he, he dropped this like shadow

Bearsnake: wizard money

Elf: guy, shadow money wizard wounds. Yeah.

Dotta: That's all I can say.

Bearsnake: Shadow, shadow wizard, money gang get out. Right.

Elf: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Freaking phenomenal. Uh, so good. Um, Yeah, excellent piece of cult content.

Uh, and then malevolent, uh, [00:59:00] did this really awesome, uh, sketch of his wizard malevolent. I got, I gotta say, I, I love your wizard. I, I love the, the, the evil whiz face, like the green wizard. Um, and, and, and your wizard is just one of my favorites in the whole collection. The look, the lore that you've written, just all the content around it.

I freaking love malevolent. It's so, it's such a good character. Um, and then, uh, c e o of run ball, um, it looks like we've got a prototype of aro ball, uh, physical board game in production. Um, so yeah, I mean, we'll, we will, uh, stay, stay tuned for that. Um, uh, jitsu, uh, flash step, uh, has a really great AI rendition of one of his warriors.

Um, just a beautiful AI piece. Uh, there's been some really good ask Art coming out lately. Um, uh, [01:00:00] Bob Bedley PhD. I don't know if I said that name right. Uh, but it looks like, uh, this was an inscription of, uh, the Askia art that's on our original Wizard contract. Uh, Doda. Here's an ordinal, uh, your reaction. I think that

Dotta: it's a, it's like an e n s name for Bitcoin.

Like it's like a dot SATs name. And so they may, they registered like the e n s name, but as like, but it's not an n s the dot SAT's name as the, the Ask Yard. I think it's really fun. Super clever. I loved it.

Elf: Yep. Yep. And then, uh, Tupac Shock, uh, did some really nice asci art. Uh, you, you know what's neat? It's interesting about Asci art is like, there's different styles.

Um, yeah. You know, I mean, it's text on a page, but, you know, even with that constraint, like there's so many different ways to do it. Uh, and, and this [01:01:00] Ask Art from Tupac Shock is really beautiful. I, I'd love to know how he did it. I think it's

Dotta: Unicode even. Oh, interesting. Ask characters. Yeah. Okay.

Bearsnake: Can we talk about the Sick burn from

Dotta: Easy Bake?

Ooh.

Elf: Uh, tell

Dotta: us about it.

Bearsnake: Well, easy Bake, it was yesterday and it got, I think it got by, it might have by got by us, but it certainly got by me. But, uh, easy Bake. I don't know what the original wizard was, but, uh, easy Bake, burned and got this incredible, uh, neg Bull Angus of the spike. Uh, it is just, I'll put it, you know, I'll put, uh, I'll put the link in the secret tower.

It's just, it's just a beautiful, it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. Um, ugly, scary, amazing. There's a big, uh, groin cloth. Uh, and we even have, um, it looks like a priest or a cat here, which I forget you even called what you called it. But, uh, it's just beautiful. It's a sick burn. Congrats. [01:02:00] He's a bit

Elf: nice. Sick burn.

Um, and then, uh, Nard, uh, posted, um, just a couple of different versions of his wizard, mags, shahi of the tower. Um, beautiful. Just, just beautiful character designs. Uh, they've got a Marco fine in there. Um, and a few others, uh, but just fantastic. Um, and then, uh, it looks like Osma bro had a piece, but now the tweet is unavailable, so I'm guessing he deleted it.

Maybe he's gonna repost. Not sure. Um, and then finally our boy cast Amir, uh, with a beautiful in-progress illustration of Doda. Um, my guess is that this is the final character that's gonna be on that amazing piece that he did of bear and eye. Um, this is probably, I love that jacket.

Dotta: Yeah, I want that jacket.

Elf: It, it's probably the coolest you've ever looked. NoDa this illustration. [01:03:00] Yeah.

Dotta: Wait, which is this?

Bearsnake: Wait, which is this? I

Dotta: pinned it. I

Elf: pinned it. Yeah, yeah,

Bearsnake: yeah. I'm looking, there's a lot of pins up

Dotta: here, boys. Is that the very end? I'm going as we go. Yeah.

Elf: That, that is, that is it. Uh, but yeah, that's all the amazing cult content for the week.

Um, if there's nothing else, bear players out.

Bearsnake: Gimme a second here. Oh, now I'm seeing the picture. I just am, I'm kind of upset about this sketch from ssir cause it looks like do is cooler than me. Um, and that's crazy. I have to say,

Dotta: I, when I saw that sketch of the two of you, I was like, I haven't a, been a fomo.

A bit sad that I wasn't part of it and I was just like, okay, well I don't have to be in everything. It's fine. Tear

Bearsnake: single teardrop.

Dotta: Yeah, exactly.

Bearsnake: I'm gonna play out. This track goes out to my lovely friend in the Hall of Cats. His name is Cash. [01:04:00] Smart, intelligent, little, a little mean and spicy. Um, but this goes out to him cuz apparently it's 1999 and the Hall of Cats.

Uh, we love you all.

Dotta: Bye.

Elf: Okay. I have no idea what this is. What is

Dotta: this Sounds like Bear and Sammy Kitty singing.

Elf: You guys know this song? No, no, no. Part of the problem is, is I can barely hear.

Dotta: Yeah. Bear. I, I don't know man. It's so quiet. It's not working.

Elf: Well, maybe if you hold the phone up to the speaker Better. Yeah. Right.

Bearsnake: It's not working. God[01:05:00]

Elf: bear, you're never hosting again. All right, let's sign

Bearsnake: off. Let's sign

Dotta: off. All

Elf: right. Channeling out from the quantum down. This is been Bear El Doda leg, itus of the black sins, pony racing, and all the wizards a forgotten ruin. Wizard, wizards, cult channeling out Gian, everybody. Bye with.