Wizard Wednesday Episode 18 Transcription

Wizard Wednesday Ep. 18

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Elf: [00:00:00] Okay, I sent you a invite, Doda.

We'll get started in about one minute.

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Jitcy: don't need.

Elf: Okay, [00:01:00] it is time. Doda, are you ready? I'm ready. Excellent. Hello everybody. It is Wednesday, December 1st, 2021, and it is time for our weekly cult meeting, a k a Wizard Wednesday, wizard Wednesday. Uh, this is Elf and Doda channeling in from the Quantum Downs. I don't know about you Doda, but I've really enjoyed sitting in the hottest new spot in the Metaverse, the Thirsty Wizard.

After a long day of flying around on a Nimbus cloud hunting for totally legal herbs and crystals, it's nice to sidle up to that little black cat and sip on a pint of cobalt Kool-Aid nibbling on a jelly donut. Do, do you have a favorite drink at the Thirsty Wizard?

Dotta: Uh, you know, I'm partial to Cree's Nog myself.

I'm in a holiday mood. [00:02:00]

Elf: Excellent, excellent. Um, yeah, I, I, I just, I'm, I'm having so much fun in, in the worldwide web meta. Um, I'm, I'm just thrilled that they built us our own tavern. I'm sure most of you have seen it. And, um, I will also not shut up about the fact that, uh, the Wizards are one of the few NFTs in there that are actually walking around and not just.

Jumping television head or not just a floating head on a thing. Yeah. You know, it, it's almost embarrassing cause uh, we almost look too good. Yep. It's, it's almost as if we're not really even walking. We're just like, strutton, strutton, confidently. Um, so yeah. Um, and then I also, uh, I, I think, I think a lot of us bought, um, an apartment in that, that meta I got, I got a small one myself.

Um,

Dotta: yeah, I wanted to [00:03:00] get a penthouse, but then it was at like two in the morning, so I was just stuck with a bunch of like little

Elf: apartments. Yep, yep, yep. I only got a small one. I think Barnet got two large ones though. Nice. I'll trade them. Trade 'em up. Yeah. Yeah. He did say we were invited to come over and crash on his couch.

Good. I'm just gonna live there. Yeah. Um, speaking of Bear Snake, is he joining us today? I don't see him. He said he is gonna be a little late. He'll be here. Okay, no problem. Um, cool. Well, I've got a thousand things I wanna say today. Um, but uh, yeah, Dota, what's, what do you, do you wanna start with anything or do you want me to just launch into it?

No, no, dive

Dotta: in. You know, we've got some questions in the Discord to talk about royalties, comic games, L two s, you know, sheep games, questions about, uh, you know, the donut. Dow. I had some good meetings or some conversations this morning, so we'll get into all of it, but go ahead. You start.

Elf: Great. Yeah. [00:04:00] Well, yeah, let me touch on one of those, which is the comic.

Um, so this is one of the items on our Roadmap Act actually, and we're making some progress with that. It's, uh, you know, it's taken us a while to find, um, writers and artists, but we are. Honing in on that. Um, but, and then it's also taking us a while to just like figure out the, um, the, uh, the exact story and the format.

Um, and so we, we've been workshopping a lot of things. Um, we came up with a, uh, a pretty big story arc, um, that lasted like five or 10 issues. Um, but once we laid it all out there, there just seems something off, something not right. And we decided that our role, at least in the beginning with the comic and with the show and with any other thing, is not so much to build out certain characters, [00:05:00] it's to world build.

And so, This like first story arc we came up with, like, it only focused on like five wizards and I, you know, I think that's why it just, it felt wrong. Um, by the way, Doug, are you like messing with like Legos or something? It sounds like. Sorry. It's okay. I had to plug in my phone. Okay, cool. Um, so yeah, so, so we decided, we decided to like shift gears and instead of like focus an entire like five or 10 issues on just a handful of wizards, um, I think, I think what we're gonna do instead is do sort of an anthology format.

Um, and so, so like if you don't know what that is, like, like a good of ex, a good example of that is like Black Mirror, um, that show on Netflix where they, they, uh, every, every episode is just a new set of characters and a new story. And they're not really connected except by a, an overarching theme of like dystopian technology.

Um, [00:06:00] And so I think that's what we're gonna do is, is just like an anthology style first, like 10 issues or so that just, um, that are just quick, like short stories. Um, and I, and I think that will serve our, um, world building efforts, um, much better. Um, And, you know, and, and it's, it's, it's really made me think about like, what is the role of the core team at Magic Machine and what is the role of the cult?

And, and I think like the, the difference generally speaking is we are world building and the cult is character building. Um, you know, and, and the upfront disclaimer is like these two, these two roles can overlap a lot. You know, the, the, the cult is can definitely world build, um, ZLA Soul and GI Ahoo, for example.

You guys are doing a lot of world building in the, uh, the build F R W C discord [00:07:00] server. Um, and, and we at Magic Machine can also character build. But generally speaking, I think, um, those are the jobs of each of each contingent. Um, so. So, yeah, so the, these Anth anthology style comic books, you know, I, I think the point is, is mostly to world build.

Um, but then within that, a really cool feature, and, you know, this is something we've been talking about for a long time, is that I want, um, a lot of the stuff that all of you have put into the book of lore to be featured in these little short stories. Um, and so, you know, specifically, like anyone who's read character lore on a Wizard Wednesday, I want your character to like, show up in these short stories as like tertiary recurring characters.

Um, you know, I, I like, I want to see [00:08:00] like, like even if it's just two panels of like a wizard saying, okay, I need to buy some quantum mushrooms. Oh, where do I go? I buy them at Magus Devon's Mu Mushroom Shop. Um, Just like, like stuff like that, like the, cuz that's, you know, this is the whole point of this project.

It's like you guys build out your characters and then we provide these larger media expressions for them to appear in. Um, and so, so I think, I think there's also like another really cool benefit to this, but, but let me pause here and just see if there's any questions or comments about that so far.

Dotta: Yeah, I'm having trouble inviting people up on stage, so you might have to invite other speakers.

I tried to invite Maggie, Devon and Jisu and. I saw Zla Soul got up here. Hi, ZLA Soul. Good to have you up here.

Elf: Hey, what's up? Hey. Hey, buddy. Um, yeah, yeah, if anyone wants to, wants to speak, just, just hit requests. I don't see any requests yet. All right. Um, [00:09:00] but yeah. Okay. So I'll, yeah, I'll just continue a little bit.

Um, you know, like one great thing about the comics is compared to studio animation or a full on video game, comics are a bit faster to produce. So we can cycle through a lot more lower building and stories with these comics. Um, and uh, yeah, I just, I just think it's gonna be really fun for everybody to see their character pop in and out of these stories.

Um, okay. But then the second benefit is, Sort of like a, a, a broader, um, statement to like, what does it mean to build a studio on decentralized ip? Um, so let, so let me back up and give a little history. Um, so I once did a pilot at Nickelodeon, um, and my mentor there, uh, constantly reiterated the importance of a strong lead character.

Uh, because character is what drives stories. Um, [00:10:00] you know, like, like SpongeBob and Patrick and Squidward, those are very strong characters. And like, once you know who they are, the writing the stories is actually easy. It almost writes itself. Like all you have to do is like, say, um, SpongeBob finds like a pie under his couch.

And you know, immediately how SpongeBob and, uh, Patrick and Squidward are gonna re respond to that. Like the story just writes itself. All you have to do is define me what the characters are and the stories just come. So that's why you need strong lead characters. Um, they are also a cash cow. Let's be real.

I mean, that's what these studios are built on. That's, that's what drives all the toy sales and the merch and, and all of that. And so all this is to say is like, this is why strong characters are important. Um, You know, entire studios are literally built on them. Um, and so, so, okay. [00:11:00] You know, and then, and then they also, they, they spend so many resources on hearing pitches, developing these shows, hiring the artists to create it.

Um, and having been through this whole process, uh, from the creator's pers perspective, this process can be an absolute nightmare, honestly. Um, because the studio's financial wellbeing is totally dependent on your creativity. So you better believe they have a lot of opinions on what your creative vision should be.

And usually their input is shaped by what has already been successful before. Um, and it's nearly impossible to get them to try something new and just totally out of left field. Okay. So that comes back to us. Um, instead of ins, instead of doing what these Hollywood studies are doing, which is, you know, here a thousand pitches a week and spend millions of dollars to land on like one new character every like five years or whatever.

Um, [00:12:00] instead we are building a world, um, Uh, to, to, to basically like find all these, these new characters. Um, we're building this eco, this creative ecosystem that empowers you all as creators to take true ownership of your characters. Um, and then we at Magic Machine will leverage our resources to express them in larger media formats.

So, with the comic, for example, I'm imagining that like each issue will have, you know, hopefully around 10 characters, more or less each getting their own cameo, their moment in the spotlight. And then what happens after that? Um, perhaps a certain store line emerges that the community is begging to see more of.

Perhaps there's a moment. In the comic, uh, that Hensley that strongly hints at a backstory or it needs more story. Um, and then you guys, uh, can start like branching off of [00:13:00] that to make your own stories or comics or, or any other creative expression, um, that can then feed back into magic machine, uh, so that there's this constant ebb and flow of creative energy from the cult to the magic machine to the cult.

Um, and then ultimately what hopefully occurs is this notion that the entertainment industry calls the breakout character, um, and what the break breakout character is. Um, so it's like a good example of it is like, um, Saul from Breaking Bad. So like the whole show was all about Walter White and Jesse, um, But they had this quirky lawyer that audiences just fell in love with and he got his own show after that.

That's what a breakout character it is. Um, another example is like the Peanuts comic, um, Charles Schultz wrote these comics. Brown and Snoopy was just like a side character, but then when they started animating these characters, Snoopy became super popular. And so he's a [00:14:00] breakout character. And so, so anyway, Swan I'm saying is like, we may find our breakout characters at some point.

Um, as long as this creative flow, uh, just keeps, keeps, keeps going back and forth. Um, and so then not only will the holder of that, uh, that breakout character wizard, um, suddenly have an NFT that's legendary, uh, but it'll also lift up the entire collection. Um, so instead of doing what Nickelodeon or, you know, any other Cartoon studio does, by slowly and meticulously searching for their star with this like, What I would deem broken, soul sucking corporate model.

Um, we are in this very unique position to decentralize this whole process, uh, to give as many characters as possible the spotlight to test their popularity and their charisma in real time. Um, and so, you know, Nickelodeon will only find one SpongeBob every 20 years because of their, their process. And I'm imagining we can find several in a [00:15:00] fraction of that time.

Um, so anyway, that was a very long-winded say, way to say. I think the comic is gonna be very interesting and experimental. Um, and I'm really excited to have all of your wizards, uh, show up in it. Um, questions and comments, Christopher?

Or Donna or anyone? No, I followed through pretty well. Um, that's kind of been my whole

Dotta: idea with, uh, the World Built Server. Uh, I drew up a little,

Jitcy: uh, draft, a little pictogram showing the extrapolation

Elf: process, so you're having ideas throughout the day. You've got it down. Then it competes

Jitcy: for space and the World Built Server.

Kind

Elf: of like a Darwinian idea kind of thing. And then, yeah, uh, any of the best ideas will be extrapolated upon and end up in, like you said, comic or yeah. Anything like that. I totally follow. Awesome, awesome. Um, Yeah. Yeah. I, they also, I love what you're doing in the, in the world [00:16:00] build server. It's super cool.

I dip in every once in a while just to see what's going on. I, you know, definitely a lot of that stuff is gonna make it to these bigger media expressions. Mm-hmm.

Jitcy: Hey, El, I, I wanted to add to that a little bit because I think you said something that's really important El, which is like, kind of character development, right?

Which is, I think character drives plot and plot establishes characters. Um, like if you look, look into like writing for a script, like, I like, like writing a lot of screenplays, but I think that's really important is establishing character maybe in the near future or you know, far from now we could have like workshops with individuals that are interested in developing characters.

I mean, Lord goes a very long ways, right? But you start talking about flaws and like character arcs and everything, and I'll be talking about, you know, TV shows. So I think that'd be like a really interesting thing that some people might be interested in. I'd love to be a part of that too, but I think that's kind of where it could branch off, right, because you're talking about individual characters.

Elf: Yep. Yep, yep. For sure. Figure out

Jitcy: little like, oh shit. Sanders Sanderson workshop. That's my

Dotta: favorite cut. Sorry. [00:17:00]

Elf: Yeah, no d do. Was was he's been, um, do you've, you've been like, trying to get us, uh, to like find a good like, um, writing teacher or something to like give like a little workshop into the, in our discord or something.

Dotta: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So we've reached out to a couple of people. Uh, you know, I think we're gonna have to expand our search a little bit, but I would love to have, you know, someone who is like a, a creative writing professor. Um, organize some like zoom sessions that are maybe like, let's say, I don't know, three to six weeks, um, where there's sort of like assignments prepared.

We, you know, we go through the character sheet, talk through basic story development. I mean, I feel like probably a lot of us went through some, uh, Creative writing in school, but it feels like if we sort of had like cult hosted, um, and then like trained teachers, that's like, okay, what you're gonna be able to do is like develop a character or two about your wizard and [00:18:00] then like write a short story and we're all gonna do it as a group in like a really supportive environment.

That seems like something that'll be super fun.

Elf: Yep. For sure. Yes. Super cool stuff. Um, Chris also came up on stage, I

Dotta: don't know if you wanted to say something. Hello? Hey. Hello Wizards. Hello. Hi. Hey.

Elf: Must to, uh, chat to you all, um, I just wanted to jump in. I, I love everything that, um, you guys do. Obviously it's amazing community and it's an amazing project and it's just constantly, you're just constantly adding this creative value to the, to the wizards, which is just really nice to be a part of.

Um, I just had a quick question about comics. Say hypothetically, there was a reptilian based comic book, um, that had planned on using wizards in issue three of their comic, for example, just hypothetically. Mm-hmm. How, how would that be affected by, [00:19:00] um, the plans that you are now talking about, purely, hypothetically,

Dotta: of course.

Well, we would, we would just buy some issues of that comic. I think that's the only way

Elf: it would be effective. Fair, fair. And, and just, uh, following on with that hypothetical, if we were to put out some, I guess, thought starters or feelers in the law channel, um, would the other wizards be keen on contributing to that?

Um, or would we prefer for that to be a bit of a surprise for when the issue comes

Dotta: out? Uh, that's up to the community, but you know, I always like to see things early. Yeah. Nice.

Elf: Nice. Oh, that's good to know. If, if anything like that happened, it's good to have that background, so

Cult Member: thanks for clearing that up.

Elf: Yeah.

Dotta: I would say specifically any of the artwork that I've seen from the, uh, reptilians has just like blown my socks off. I'm like, can't be more excited to see more issues of what you guys create.

Cult Member: Oh, great. A little

Elf: bit of, um, little [00:20:00] bit of alpha for the Wizards. We should have our, sorry, I've just taken over little shill here.

No, it's worries. We've got, um, we're just waiting on the final cover from our guest artist and I've been told that will be, uh, in our inbox in the next three to four days, so hopefully we'll be minting issue two next week. Um, great. Stay

Cult Member: tuned. Love your

Dotta: work. Thanks. Yeah, likewise.

Elf: Cool. That's really exciting.

Thanks, Chris for Yeah, I, I want a second one notice said Crucifer comics are just, they're beautiful. I love 'em. They're super cool. Yeah. Huge fan. Hi Christopher. I've always wanted to say what's up. Hey, on this

Dotta: issue of like derivative art and comics and um, like providing support for character building and all these things, um, we've al there's also been a lot of discussion, um, both in Discord and then like kind of in in dms too, um, [00:21:00] around this idea of like, can we set up a Dao that makes sense for, um, that's that's dedicated to, um, creating derivative wizard art lore, like re kind of reinforcing the Wizard community, right?

Um, have kind of this dream or many of us do that there's sort of a dao which, you know, I know that Dows get thrown a lot around a lot, so let me maybe explain what I mean by that. A DAO is essentially, um, a wallet. That has some governance over the funds and then hopefully some way that the Dow can generate more money.

Um, and so like essentially if you just had a Multisig wallet with like five, or, um, you know, let's say six out of 10 multisig holders, um, have to vote to spend that money. Um, and then there's different ways that you can submit proposals, right? So there's ways that you can do voting that's on chain and co costs gas, um, or maybe you've seen Snapshot, which is a way that you can, um, do [00:22:00] proposals off chain.

You can do voting off chain. It doesn't cost any gas. And so, um, those would be, um, so that would be kinda like the fundamentals of a DAO would be that there's like a wallet and there's a way to vote on how to spend the money in that wallet. So ideally we would be able to have, um, like a Dao that is dedicated to like creating artwork and stories about Wizards.

Um, and so the idea is that it would also just have like the operational parts built in as well. So, um, you know, we think a lot about kind of like the Wizards journey, right? People come in and they're like, oh, how do I know which one to buy? And we tell them, oh, you know, like Wizard Buy Wizard, right? And so they buy Wizard Verify.

And then they're like, okay, what's next? You know? And as we grow, we'll have more things you can do. Right? Come play the wizzy verse of us, or all these things.

Elf: But you know, one

Dotta: of the things that early on we want folks to do is to be, it's to say like, create derivative art about your wizard. Right?

Commission a painting, get an animation, [00:23:00] get a song done, get a poem done. Um, and ideally we can say, and this is free, this is like a service of kind of the doo the doo will you proposal about which artist you want to do at work. We have descriptions of like templates that you can reuse. We have relationships with artists who already know like what the deal is.

Um, and then we have funding to kind of fund those things. And so, um, I've been talking to, I actually had a big meeting this morning with Methodist police. Hello Methodist.

Cult Member: Hey, hey, hey,

Dotta: hey. Hey. Yeah. Uh, yeah, so curious to feel free to like, kind of chime in, but I think the, the, the, the, so one of the things that we're discussing is like, what might that look like?

What is kind of the mvp, right? Is there a token or is there a not, what are the voting rights? Is it something more like nouns now? You know, do we use forgotten souls or the undesirables or donuts? Is this the same as donut dow? I don't think that we necessarily have answers to all of these questions, but we have some ideas.[00:24:00]

Elf: Yeah. Yeah. And, and so like we, we, we discussed a bit this morning and that there are a lot of different ideas and a lot of different ways to, to both have the voting mechanics in the Dao, but also have the re revenue generation for the Dao. Um, and we, we put down some, some ideas between us. We will probably, um, make it into a more public document.

Um, but if anyone in the community wants to, wants to join the discussion and wants to, to provide some feedback or ideas or, or start to contribute to the, um, just comment to the, into the donut Dow channel on Discord and, and we keep the, can keep the discussion going on there. Yeah.

Dotta: The donut dow uh, thread is like under the live burn chat.

Maybe I'll link to it. I'll link to it in the secret tower. So if anybody is like, interested in kind of, um, you know, contributing to this conversation, um, I can share, like this morning some of the stuff that we were [00:25:00] talking about is trying to keep it relatively simple. I think in the beginning it would be something like, um, a multisig, right?

So maybe there's like a. 10 people who are on the multisig, who should those people be? We're not sure. And probably doing, um, an e r C 20 token in the beginning is maybe a bit too much. There's all sorts of like, governance kind. There's like, I dunno, there's questions there about how to make it work.

Probably the simplest way to make it work is like one wizard, one vote, and then we've talked about, or that includes souls too. Um, and then we've talked about this idea that maybe the DAO actually does an auction. Um, either like it's a daily auction, sort of as needed. And you know, in the long-running case, once it's kind of been bootstrapped, you could imagine a case where we go to, um, like popular high end like, um, NFT artists.

Uh, you know, we'll go to Oz and we'll say, Hey, can [00:26:00] you do like this painting of a particular moment in this wizard's life? And then we'll put that up for auction. And then we, the Dow for example, could. Um, you know, commission that from the artist, auction it, and then whoever buys that N F T, um, gets voting rights in the Dow.

Um, and then the money goes partially to the artist, um, according to whatever we agreed on, and then partially to the dow to then fund future works. Um, and so I think that that, that, that feels like it makes sense. You know, one of the things we've been, uh, yeah, we've just been talking more about how to get this wizard art made, and so this is one of the initial ideas.

So yeah, if you are interested in kind of like being involved in that discussion, this process, like join the thread and, uh, and, and, and we'll have more to talk about in weeks, weeks coming up.

Elf: Yep. It's, it's a super interesting concept. Um, I know that. Uh, Tom and [00:27:00] retired yield farmer, you guys have dmd us about similar ideas. Um, there's, you know, there's just a ton of ways to structure this, this sort of idea. Um, but I think it's definitely something that needs to happen in one way or another.

Dotta: And I want it to be part of the community. Like, I'm not even sure that I, for example, want to be one of the multisig holders. Um, you could imagine that like,

Elf: first

Dotta: off, those people who hold the multisig need to be people that we all know and trust, right? So if there's some sort of process to kind of elect the multisig holders or, or nominate at least.

Um, and then from there, You know, they need to be relatively responsive to processing, like their signatures to approve

Elf: things. Um,

Dotta: and then you can even imagine as it gets going, right, like let's say there's like a good amount of funds in there, there's a regular, regular stream of new artwork being created, new character work being created there, there needs to be like a specific

Elf: person whose

Dotta: job is to be, you know, like the whip, the whip master [00:28:00] whose job is to like track down the artists and like make sure that they're doing the work to, to, to, to, to.

To track down the multisig holders and ask them to sign to, to review proposals, things like that. So, um, and then I think it's perfectly fair for that person, the wit master to like ask the Dow for a fee for their time. Right. So you the, it's, you could imagine that the Dow actually becomes like a small corporation where, you know, the whip master is one person of maybe many that, but that is actually like earning a, you know, you could earn a few thousand dollars a month, like a part-time job just managing wizard commissions, which I don't know, to me sounds like a fun job, um, that, you know, is for sure worth paying for.

Cause it's a lot of work, you know, as we have, you know, uh, as we tried to do this a few times. So yeah, this is something that like, I'm hoping to help Bootstrap as a community project, um, to make character [00:29:00] derivative art and character development easier.

Elf: Mm-hmm. Yep. Super cool stuff. Um, did you have any, uh, questions in the, in the Discord that you, you think we should tackle?

Or who?

Dotta: All right. Discord question. Rapid fire. Let's see here. So I asked, it said it's a Wizard Wednesday. What do y'all want to hear about? The first question we had was from tv. First off tv. I wanna say again, just, um, how impressed I am with your contributions to the, uh, the nouns project. I know Sweet Breads here and oh, and, uh, s bz, everyone, all, everyone contributed.

Um, and I just have been loving the Nouns project. Oh, on that I believe the minting closes on that. Um, uh, correct me if I'm wrong in the Discord, but I believe that the situation right now is anyone can mint any number of nouns up to the Max Supply and then it closes [00:30:00] on Friday. I don't know if that's in 24 or 48 hours someone can mention.

So if you want a now in wizard and you want more than one, uh, then now is your time. I haven't minted mine. I need to, um, okay. So TV ask curious if the Wizards Metaverse team may be partially open for other NFT holders like Web three or be reserved for wizards souls warriors. I'm guessing there'll be quests that report, uh, that require holding of forgotten ruins, but I wonder if there'll be any common areas, for instance.

Yeah. Okay. So on the game, I probably said this last week, but it's still the same, which is we are inches away from signing with a game developer. We will trumpet it all over town at the second that we can,

Elf: um,

Dotta: about who the game developer is. The previous screenshots we've seen, the plans that we have so far that is like in the works, um, very, very close.

The, the, the, the high level about this game is yeah, like for, for an online game that's like, um, like a metaverse in questing and social, like it can't just be [00:31:00] us. Um, are as the only people as part of that world. And so, um, in the same way that like maybe sort of Fortnite, how you have like stock characters there, you can get kind of a stock character, our stock char, you know, whatever.

I don't want to, um, talk bad about other people's projects, but our stock character will not be a naked fleshy, like amorphous human, um, that

Elf: has nothing just walking around like our stock characters will be

Dotta: acting by the

Jitcy: way. That's okay. That's okay. It's okay. Everybody's

Dotta: gotta start somewhere. Yeah, I'm just saying we'll have like, you know, whatever varia variation and polished Yeah.

Even in V one. Um, but there will be people other than you won't have to hold a forgotten ruins wizard to play the

Elf: game, but there will be benefits

Dotta: to holding a forgotten ruins wizard. And really that's the aspiration of everyone who plays this game, is to like eventually be able to like work your way up to acquire a wizard.

Um, and there will, you know, you know, we're never minting more

Elf: Wizard NFTs. [00:32:00] So, yeah, so that's the answer.

Dotta: Alright. Second question, kind of a semi-related follow up also by TV says, any updated plans on royalties or wizard holders from things like the TV series, the game, the comic book? I know this was discussed a while back, but I haven't heard anything lately.

Elf: Um,

Dotta: you know, frankly the near term kind of state of those things is there's not like royalties coming in. It's actually only costs going out. For example, the trailer that we're doing with Tip Mouse is, um, at the moment is something that we've been paying for, not something that

Elf: we have a buyer

Dotta: for that is like

Elf: paying us.

So I

Dotta: think a, you know, similarly with the comic book right now, what's happening is like we are like

Elf: paying artists and paying

Dotta: writers. So I think we'll have more to talk about as that, um, as we get closer to shipping and having revenue from those things. I think that like, it's a mix of like, we want, like we want

Elf: to give back to

Dotta: the

Elf: community and, um,

Dotta: Does that [00:33:00] mean that we, I think that's one of the benefits of having the Dow is that that gives a very clear place to put that money, um, do we give it to individual wizard holders in order for that to happen?

There's no world in which we can give an individual wh holder, uh, like a royalty without K Y c. And so maybe there's some sort of process there if that needs to happen. But,

Elf: um, yeah. So,

Dotta: but the answer is like, there's no details, but it's still kind of in the, you know, it's in the cards. Hi, Vicky.

Jitcy: Hi.

Hello.

Elf: Hello.

You're on Wizard Wednesday. Welcome

Dotta: to Stage. Yeah. Welcome to the stage. Yeah. Got a, do you have a question?

Elf: Yeah, let's hear. Okay.

Jitcy: I don't have a

Elf: question. Okay. Oh, okay. All

Dotta: right. Nice to meet you. Um,

Jitcy: but I

Dotta: have a question.

Elf: Okay. [00:34:00] Let's hear it.

Oh, they're gone. I dunno. Okay. Okay. Um, I see a question in the discord that o asked, um, which is, which is a very interesting question. It says, what is the process of wizard selection? Um, I, I, I think he's talking about how do we decide what wizards are gonna show up in the comic, for example. Um, and yeah, so this, this is a really cool, this is a, this is an interesting question.

Um, the, in the very beginning. Yeah. It's gonna just be like, whatever just stands out to me and the team, um, just to get the ball rolling, you know, that's just kind of what we have to do. Um, you know, I'll say like, what is, what has stood out to me is like definitely I. Prominent members, like, like o himself, um, Magus, Devon Magus, Wasier ba basically anyone who's read lore during a Wizard [00:35:00] Wednesday, you guys are like, you know, definitely standing out to me as like a wizard that would appear as a cameo in these stories.

Um, and, uh, but you know, you know, the goal ultimately, like the five, 10 year goal is like to have every single 10,000 wizards show up at least once, somewhere, if not more. Um, but yeah. And then just let me, let me just, just like put a finer point on this. Um, I don't think any of the comics, at least early on, are just gonna be straight up taking a full story out of the book Allure and representing that in comic form.

No, it's go, it's gonna be more like. We, well, okay, here's something interesting. We started, like in our, in our behind the scenes, we've started a character directory. Um, lochness is like compiling biographies of, of all, all the wizards. Um, and so she's like collected like notable quotes and like highlights from their bio and just like [00:36:00] the, the, the top line stand out, uh, features of, of who, whatever wizard is.

And so we will take those and those will sort of inform the little short, little cameos, um, of how they will appear in the comic. Um, I hope that makes sense. At least answers the question. Um, but this, this, this character directly Locke has started is it's so cool. Um, I wish you guys could see it maybe eventually.

And then I think for

Dotta: the Dow, it's really like, I. The V1 is literally just you make a proposal in. So if you haven't seen like snapshot.org, um, you would just make a proposal on Snapchat, uh, snapshot and say like, oh, you know, I want a comic about the one who rings surrounded with Mr in shenanigans. You know, then you'd make that, you know, you'd make that proposal.

And then if the Doo feels like, no, we have too much, [00:37:00] uh, derivative art from the one who rings, you know, then, then I'll make a couple of phone calls and tell them that we can never have enough. Yeah. Um, you know, they can make kind of that editorial call. Um, and then eventually we want to have some sort of like yeah.

Mechanism to, to make it more fair, I suppose.

Elf: Yeah. No, that's, that's super interesting. Yeah. Like the, these first iterations that Magic Machine is making. Yeah. It's, it's just sort of like we're just picking and choosing based on, you know, various ambiguous things. But yeah, the Dow might have like a more formalized process of how these things happen.

Um, you know, or, or it could even be like, um, Magus was ear, like, could do a full like campaign, like put me on the cover of issue 10 or whatever. And I imagine with Magus was ears, um, campaign powers. He could probably do it, so I'm not [00:38:00] gonna

Dotta: complain. Um,

Elf: yeah. Um, yeah. Okay. Uh, speak. Oh, is, is that all the uh, the discord questions?

Dotta: Uh, let's see. Okay, so we had another question about someone wanted to know about the lore you were writing. I'm not sure where they're ready to get there. Uh, someone asked, I think about what happened to Lochness. I mean, she's around, she's just not here this day, but she's, you know, she's doing a good job.

Elf: Um, and then I see, I see her at the very bottom of the audience right now. Hi, Locke. You wanna,

Dotta: you are free to come up and chat if you have something. Yeah, I think that's all the questions. That's all the questions I've got so

Elf: far now. Okay. Yeah. I, I'm not sure what this person means by the lore that I'm writing.

Un, unless they mean like the, uh, the, the giant metal Lord document that I've mentioned. Um, if that's what they mean, then, you know, it's, it's still in process. I [00:39:00] mean, just to reiterate what that is, um, I'm, I'm trying to do like a short little description of literally every single item, every single head, every single spell familiar, um, that's in the entire collection, just to sort of explain what it is.

Um, so that document is happening. Um, but that also, uh, sort of brings me to one topic that I sort of wanted to discuss. Um, and it's about art imitating life and life imitating art. Um, so unless you have anything else, I could jump onto that. Do it. I, okay. I love getting, I love just like waxing philosophically on these things.

I don't know if it annoys everybody else, but, um, I loved it, so.

Dotta: Okay.

Elf: Um, yeah, so, so, you know, the, what, what made me sort of like think about this was we [00:40:00] shared that, uh, concept art of Calista Citadel on our Twitter like two weeks ago, I think. And I meant, I meant to say this two weeks ago, but, um, I'm, I'm finding finally getting around to saying it now.

Um, So, so let, let me, let me start it this way. Um, near the very beginning of the whole Forgotten Rooms project, um, bread, sweet Bread, who was in the audience? Hi. Uh, she was one of like the first people to start making derivative art. Um, and it just like, it warmed my heart as soon as I saw her doing it.

And I, I remember like one of the first things she drew, I shared it with our team and I said, this, this is exactly what I want to start happening. Um, and then she shared this amazing gif of the Wizard Auger Gwendolyn, uh, on these turntables. And the gift is just freaking amazing. It's, it's one of my favorite gifts that's, that's [00:41:00] I've seen in this whole project.

Um, it's the Wizard on Turntables, and so I saw that. And that solidified my desire to make the universe, um, more than just a traditional medieval fantasy world. Um, you know, it's like, does this world have turntables? Does it have technology? Yes, it does. It's not just like a, a world's displaced in like medieval times, like a traditional fantasy genre franchise or whatever.

Um, and so, yeah, I was like this, the universe definitely has technology and turntables, um, because I want the universe to constantly reflect the I R L world and how the cult themself in I r l is shaping this project. Um, and so, You know, there, there's precedent for this. For, for example, you know, you walk around Europe, [00:42:00] um, and you'll see, uh, these ancient pieces of architecture right next to these hyper modern constructions.

Um, and, and that that's what you see in Calista Citadel. You see these ancient, um, walls, uh, mixed into these like really modern skyscrapers. And, you know that that's, that's the universe. Um, so it's like wizards. Wizards imitate life, life imitates, wizards. Um, I am my wizard. My wizard is me. Uh, the universe and the universe are already merging.

Um, And so, you know, it, it, this, this is like one tool you can use when you're creating your lore is, um, like, like when I'm creating the lore, I, it, it's, I don't even really use that much creativity. Um, I just, I just like try to speak the truth that I see. And, and you know, I, I was talking about this the other day, like, you don't need to be like a super skilled artist or a super skilled writer.

Just speak your truth. Just like reflect what is right in [00:43:00] front of you. Um, and so when I'm writing the Middle, Lord, my, my biggest in inspiration really, it's not Tolkin, it's not George R. Martin, it's not George Lucas. It's reality itself. You just, you tap into these human archetypes and a sort of, um, Joseph Campbell, uh, hero with a Thousand Faces Way, and you've got your whole legendary just sitting right in front of you if you just look at these human archetypes.

Um, and so I. That's why I'm not really afraid to reference pop culture in the collection. Uh, cuz today's pop culture is tomorrow's mythology and, um, and these mythologies are, are almost always borrowed from these human archetypes. So that's sort of the direction that I think the universe is going in.

You just, um, you just constantly flip meat space with meta space, um, and, and amazing things can come out of it.

Jitcy: Maybe that's what we call the Dow [00:44:00] meat space.

Elf: Yeah. I feel like the ru averse is, is

Dotta: just this big cloud of where all of our

Elf: ideas collectively gather and live and end up taking shape in life of their own. Yep. Yep. You know, I, I'm, I'm looking at this Twitter spaces right now, like all the little icons that, that represent us, and they're all NFTs.

There's a lot of wizards and, you know, we're already doing this, we're already like, blurring the line between MeetSpace and Meta Space. Um, and, and that's, you know, that's sort of how the universe is gonna roll out.

Jitcy: I think the game's gonna, I think the game's gonna play a big part in that too because, um, it's not just a game. I think one of the biggest sort of pillars that will underpin the whole thing is, is, is really a, a place to socially collaborate, you know? Um, and, and a place where you can call your own. I think we saw a little bit of, [00:45:00] of that, um, this week with worldwide web too, and like getting apartments and

Dotta: stuff like that.

Elf: I think. A hundred percent. Yep. Yep. I mean, yeah. That's, that's metaverse is what you're talking about. Yeah.

Jitcy: Yeah. And I'd like to add to that too, cuz I think we're already doing it to a certain degree, right? Like, I mean, I love the tavern, if anyone's noticed. I love being in there and talking to people and creating stories and like, it's just, that's what it kind of is, right?

This game we're gonna create is kind of like that environment where we can kind of just hang out, talk, create things, and kind of just go from there. So I'm super psyched. Sorry, I'm just,

Elf: I'm ranting. Yeah, no, you're, you're totally right. It's, that's just like a little tidbit of what's to come, I think.

Dotta: Yeah.

In a

Jitcy: lot of ways, you know, you look at, you look at what happens, uh, on, you know, the secret Tower channel. Um, there's going to be other iterations. I think there's a version where the Book of Lore becomes an opportunity for, for us and our [00:46:00] community to socialize as, as, as it grows and builds in, in terms of functionality.

I think the game and, and, and the meta, uh, will be another place. And so the, the, we're gonna create these pockets and, you know, you never know what will really take and what won't. Um, that's why you just have to plant as many seeds as possible. And, and I think the community at large will gravitate towards, um, one or the other.

And, and factions will form and, you know, someone in on this Twitter spaces or, or someone that hasn't joined the color of the fam yet will do something that will be meaningful and that will, that will sort of be that spark. So it's, it's this ever-evolving living and breathing thing.

Elf: Yep. Yeah, the book of law is definitely going to expand in its functionality and its, um, features, um, speaking of the book of law, I know, I know that, oh, go ahead.

Yeah, go for it, Notre. Go

Dotta: for it. Niki has been working on that. He's has the, uh, [00:47:00] you know, an internal testing, early edit version of, uh, editing. So we're That's like coming soon.

Elf: Yeah. Yeah. It So I'll, I'll tell you something fun. Um, one thing I've noticed about this project, and, and I, I don't know, I don't know why, but like, I've got people in my personal life, like family members and friends that I've known for a long time who are, who like are getting into wizards.

They own a wizard, um, and they, they turn into Wizard Wednesday, um, and they're not like, They're not like unquote like creative type people. Like they've never really like, cared about writing or drawing or creating things, you know? And that's totally fine. That's who they are. Um, but, but what's weird is like, they own a wizard and they're suddenly like, you know what?

I'm gonna write some law. And they said there's like this creative bug that just suddenly comes out. [00:48:00] Um, so like my brother for example, he, he has a wizard and you know, I, I, I didn't, I don't know, I didn't know why he bought it. I thought he just, you know, wanted to have fun and just, you know, be able to say I own a wizard.

But he was like, he's like, no, I wanna write some lore for it. I was like, really? You wanna write, you wanna write something? You wanna write something in the book of lore. Um, but, but I'm seeing this trend in like, so many other people who I've never, like in my life, seen them do something creative until they had a wizard and now they're like excited to create something.

And I think on the, and I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Go ahead. I, uh, and I think,

Dotta: uh, I, I've seen that in my life too, I guess is what I was gonna say, which is, but my family's like very crafty. Like my mom has like all of the like, you know, cutting machines and printing machines and, you know, makes little signs and mugs and t-shirts.

She's got like all of that, uh, a whole craft room. And, you know, we [00:49:00] went over there for Thanksgiving and there's like just wizards on everything. Uh, you know, and my, my parents are

Elf: super into it, right? There's like wizards of mugs, wizards on shirts,

Dotta: wizards on wood, you know, and then, and it's fun too, cuz my kids love it too.

Like, my kids will like, draw pictures of wizards and like, you know, create little pics, lot

Elf: everything. So it's just, I, that's one of the things I

Dotta: really loved is that just how everyone can be involved. Like, none of my other jobs had the whole family so involved, including like my parents and my children.

And I, and I

Jitcy: can, and from personal experience, let me just tell you. When I met Dota, i r l I mean, I like walked through his garage, which is like the most amazing scenario for any child or any family where it's just like the ultimate arts and crafts. And there, there were definitely wizards and costumes and all sorts of stuff being made.

It was like such a beautiful thing. So cool. Especially in a world that's awesome. Especially in a world where like, you know, cause I have kids, um, and it's [00:50:00] as, as like, as we move forward there, the idea of like doing things together. I think it's harder and harder. Um, everybody is, it's sort of maybe under the same roof, but doing other things completely separately, maybe more so than

Dotta: ever

where, um,

Jitcy: you can enjoy something as a community, as a family is like such a huge

Dotta: thing. Such a huge thing.

Elf: It's, yeah, it's huge. But yeah, I, I just, I don't know, like, what I haven't figured out though is like, Like, why is this project inspiring creativity? Like, like, you know, me and my brother used to play video games and you know, I would go off and draw pictures of Mario, but he wouldn't necessarily, and so why is he now like suddenly excited to write Laura about a wizard?

I, you know, I don't, I don't know. And it's, and it's not just him. I'm seeing like other people do it too, who before would not necessarily create things.

Jitcy: I [00:51:00] think about that every single day. I'm literally, my routine at this point has completely swapped because of this project. At first, I was lurking around, I was super hype about everything, and I bought my first wizard and it was all, I'll call it uphill from there, like I'm a very busy person with like what I do.

But at the same time, I have found almost every single waking second time to be in the discord because the people here in this community, along with everybody else that's running it like I. You can't make this shit up. It's ridiculous. The only time I've ever experienced it before is like back in m IRC days when like there was like a pocket of like video game players that were competing at a high level that like they only only knew each other.

And that was it. Like, because it was a very small community of people that had a mission on something which was competing in eSports. But here it's like this creative fantasy world that brings the most in intellectual and awesome people together. And I just can't get over it. And I talk to everyone under the sun about this project because if I can onboard a million people, I will fucking do so, so sorry again.

Love [00:52:00] you.

Elf: Wow. I I'll have Evan. Yeah. Yeah. What's up Tom? Joe? I, I think it's the, uh, the ownership. I mean, everything that Jisu said, obviously, uh, I can't argue with any of that, but the ownership factor,

Cult Member: it's like that's what, that's what human

Elf: beings are wired to do. Get shit and keep shit, and you get to do both with your wizard and you get to grow it.

It's like having a kid versus watching someone else's. I

hate

Cult Member: other people's

Elf: kids.

Cult Member: Right. That's a

Jitcy: really good point actually. I think the ownership thing is huge too, because how many people in the Discord, right, have always had that creative earth that they love to do things, write things, or not even write things, right.

Whatever. It's in the creative spectrum, and then you have this ownership of something that you can actually, like, add to the world of what we're doing. I think you're right. That's, that's everything. Like, and you were talking about examples of people who are doing things or trying to, um, you know, create creative aspects of, um, things are on within the Wizards.

But like, I did the same thing too, like I haven't written in a long time. [00:53:00] I actually have like a master's in creative writing because I'm so busy with what I do, but the second I got a wizard, I'm like, I need to write everything under the sun about them. Like, I can't stop myself. And you know, I ended up writing a recently and it's just Yeah, exactly.

It's a cult. Like we're part of the coolest ever, you know, so cult.

Elf: Yeah. I, I think that's definitely a huge part of, it's just the straight up ownership. You, you really get to take ownership of your, your, your

Dotta: character. Yeah. But don't

Jitcy: you think that like, I think it goes beyond, it's that, but like every other n ft project, more or less has that ability, right? So, so that's true.

Elf: Yeah. So,

Dotta: so

Jitcy: there's nothing, it's the, to me, it's like the dark matter. It's the, it's the, it's the X factors, the stuff that, that exists in between all of the facts, which is what people get so excited about. And that's what's, that's, to me, that's what makes it special, is that there's just something going on where people are like, wait a minute, this is more, this is more than just, [00:54:00] you know, a profile picture.

Um, and sure, like, we've sparked, we've sparked creation, but it's happening also on its own, which I, I, you know, I

Dotta: can't really explain it. What, what it is to me is I watched this video where they say that

Elf: what people

Jitcy: crave isn't purpose. They,

Elf: they crave to see their fantasies actualized.

Jitcy: And when you get a wizard, you just start having

Elf: all these ideas and then you then become the bridge to the creative side and you wanna see all these fantasies you're having actualized and.

That becomes your

Jitcy: representation. Cool,

Elf: cool, cool.

Jitcy: Yep. What

Elf: I think is really remarkable though is this is different things and manifests different things for pretty much everybody that's on it. And for me, like I'm not into creative writing, I'm not really into the animation and the gaming, but I found this project and it's so much fun.

I got into the creative writing because so many guidelines were set and I found it to be really cathartic. Like I sat down and I was like, am I really gonna write something? And after an hour of writing, I was like really getting into it. [00:55:00] And I think that's where people that have not been into this project before or not been into this project, sorry, not been into creative writing or drawing before are really getting into it, is you see people having a lot of fun and it's such a non-judgmental, um, open, uh, supportive environment where like, We all help each other and can lean on each other.

And like when Donna talked earlier about, uh, bringing in somebody to do like a creative writing course, um, I feel like you guys have really, uh, organically done that. Like, again, through ELF'S Law from the beginning and um, really establishing some very basic guidelines for the wizards. Creating a framework, creating a story with enough outline where people are not starting from nothing, but um, but enough leeway as well where we can kind of run on our own and, and create a little magical story that manifests ourselves.

Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. For sure. That makes total sense. [00:56:00] Yep. Yep. It's, uh, it's the cult, it's the ownership and, uh, it's, it's the wizard special sauce, I suppose. Um, and it doesn't, it, it also doesn't hurt that we, uh, we broke the world record for the most expensive donut ever sold. Hmm. Delicious. So, so, um, yeah, mags Wazzer had pointed that out.

I didn't realize that we had broken the world record. Um, so that is quite an in chief and inf maybe

Dotta: we can submit to the Guinness Book. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Does is

Jitcy: there's, I think there's like a, you can, you can apply and so it's all on chain, so it's public.

Dotta: We can verify it. Perfect.

Jitcy: Although, has there been like a gold leaf donut?

I'm gonna do some.

Dotta: This is, it was more than the gold leaf. There was a gold leaf donut and Magus was zero. Pointed out that our, uh, donut with slime was more expensive than the Gold leaf donut. Well, we're gonna get working

Jitcy: on a, uh, little, [00:57:00] uh, Guinness Book, uh,

Dotta: stamp. Yeah. Well, we just have five more minutes.

I think we had some art shout outs we wanted to do. I had one in particular that I know that, uh, Chuck K helped out with even more Japanese translations. So thanks, Chuck. You've been really, really

Elf: diligent on that. Always a champ. That Chuck, um, hold on. It looks like o was trying to come up to speak, but we might have too many speakers.

Um, okay. So who can I kick off? You can kick me. I'll hop up. May. Here I'll ze Well said first. Um, so let's see. Let me remove, yes. Remove, and then, um, oh, let me invite you. Okay. I'm trying to invite you back. Oh, I, I don't know if, um, I don if it'll work. Um, there's, there's o Can you hear us though? Can you, oh, yes, I can hear you.

Hello. Yeah, I, what I was gonna say, I've decided I didn't wanna say, but [00:58:00] thank you. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, nevermind then. That's all right. Um, cool. Uh, yeah, and I don't, I don't think we have a, uh, a lore share today. Nobody, um, nobody had any lore today. Um, but if you do have lore, always, uh, DM lochness, she, uh, she organizes our lore shares.

Dotta: Um,

Elf: and yeah, I guess that's it for me. Uh, oh, we got, here's a speaker. Um,

Uh, let's see. Wonder, wonder. O x. Weird. Hi. Yeah,

Cult Member: thanks. Hello. Hello. You. So you just said that there was a no lore share and I, I actually have been working on some and was just, just gonna try and write some to the book of Lord. So I thought I might just share it here. This is my first time actually up here.

Um, that sounds great. It's great to be a wizard [00:59:00] trying to Yeah, yeah. To pay more in this community. You guys are all awesome and just the wizard are awesome, so great. Um, yeah, gimme one second.

Elf: Sure.

Dotta: I'm sharing some of the, uh, art of the week up on the, uh, Twitter space. So, uh, you guys wanna check that out?

We've got it queued up.

Cult Member: Yeah, this community is really awesome. I, I mean, I've, I've always had a creative thing in me and I've written a bunch of random creative stories, but haven't really put them out there. So this, the Book of Lord seems so cool to me cuz I feel like part of my hesitation in putting my creative writing out there is because then it would be like out there for people to consume.

But the book of law is like even more out there. It's like permanently written to the blockchain. And so that I, I feel like it's giving me bravery and courage to, to, to take that step. So this is just really [01:00:00] cool. Nice, nice. Um, anyways, here's, so here's the prologue. I have my, my wizard is, um, chaos, ma marline of the Athenian number six 60

Elf: Great

Cult Member: sensations, ablaze.

Marline stepped out from the roaring Teal gateway. With the torn edges of space whipping by her, her ears sang, and eyes scintillated. As the ak yet nostalgic taste and smell of burnt bubblegum filled her nose and mouth nauseating Vertigo snapped into a euphoric glow. As her foot left the ripple grind of chaos and the teal gateway closed behind her with a sizzling pop.

The MA was now somewhere else. Robert exclaimed the toad In excruciating delight, pleased that the heft of its master had left it once again. The sudden noise vibrated the empty white space. Marcine had stepped into jotting her out of her dream woven state. As the same unanswered questions returned to front of [01:01:00] mind.

It seemed to her impossible to figure how one cadet once be so confused by their own existence and behavior, and yet deeply nostalgic about the sensations that arose from them. Gait after gate were summoned with ease, but each step through the chaos got her no further toward answers, nor away from those empty white rooms.

Still, the nostalgia seemed helpful for the memories or dreams. Who could tell it? Evoked brought Marcy closest to knowing her past, and it was in her past that she imagined she might find herself and see into her future, perhaps a few more steps through the chaos and the bubblegum would remind her of the way.

So with a deep breath and a sigh. Marcine stepped once more on the chaotic toad whose wobbling burp tore a new hole into space and summoned that liquid agate gateway through which she amed mumbling on chaos on. So that's the, the [01:02:00] prologue for a series that I'm working on for, for me.

Elf: Okay. I gotta tell you, that was super interesting.

Let me, here's what I loved about it. Um, the fact that she choose bubble gum in chaos. Like that is a very potent image that's so much fun. Um, just sitting in chaos, chewing bubblegum. That's like poetic. Um, I love that. And then, and then, and then did you say like she steps on her, her toad to like open the portal to chaos?

Cult Member: Yeah. Right. So her toad's name is chaos and when she steps on it, it's someone's the portal into, into chaos that she can walk through. Oh,

Elf: I love it. That's so good. Oh man, that's such a fun character. Very nice. Sick. Thank you. And the name Marcine is good too. Yeah,

Cult Member: yeah. I, I, I mean, I'm a, I'm a big fan of the whole, um, adventure time universe, so I, I've kind of had a little play on that going as well where Marc's a pan dimensional wizard [01:03:00] who travels through and, you know, what I've wanted to do was kind of feature some of the other NFTs I have in other, other universes, having marcine kind of stumble upon them and having interactions with them.

So, oh, best

Elf: show on

Cult Member: television. Nice. Until the,

Jitcy: until the Wizards TV show. And then, yeah, totally.

Cult Member: 1 1 1 Wizard TV show. Awesome. Anyways, yeah, thank you so much for letting me share. Uh, I'll definitely be back at More Wizard Wednesdays and plan to participate more in this community. You guys rock.

Elf: Thank you.

All right, well, thank you. Um, time is up, uh, witches and Wizards. So this has been Elf Doda. Oh, bear Snakes Slick Chick tv. Magus, uh, Devin Wonder, weird Flash, Tom freaking.[01:04:00]