Wizard Wednesday Episode 12 Transcription

WW. Ep. 12

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Elf: [00:00:00] It's Wednesday and it's time for our cult meeting, A K A Wizard Wednesday. This is Elf and Doda channeling in from the quantum downs, considering that the cult of Scientology has tax exempt status. I asked Doda if we could get that too in our last wizard Wednesday in a parallel dimension. We did indeed do this with this extra money we got.

Mauss was ear his own bell tower with a bell so large it's become the eighth wonder of the world. Ze la soul throws eyes wide shut style parties. O has a library full of rabbits, all named cheeky bastard Magus. Devin keeps us well stocked with quantum mushrooms. Bear Snake is opening doors all over the world and meme Lord Lochness is the Metaverse Banksy with memes in every digital corner.

I, myself and Ru, am running through a field of daisies and Dota. What are you doing in this parallel universe making puppets? I [00:01:00] presume.

Dotta: Oh, I've gotta share some photos of my puppets. Uh, I even have like a super embarrassing video.

Elf: Um, I'm sure it's not that embarrassing if you're making puppets.

Um, okay. Bear snake. Are you able to talk now?

He's

Dotta: coming. He's a speaker. He's

Elf: muted. Damnit bear snake on all days. This, this had to be the day you're having technical difficulties. Usually we can't shut you up. Maybe

Dotta: he's

Elf: been silent. A dark horse doesn't want to speak. Put a silent on him. Who, who's nc

Bearsnake: I'm having some connectivity issue.

Elf: That's all right, buddy. I, I, I heard you say that. Try try. Let me, let me hear you talk.[00:02:00]

Oh boy. Why don't you just move on and we'll let him talk when up here. Go ahead. We've got plenty. Yeah, we've got plenty to cover today. Um, okay, so if you guys haven't noticed, our Twitter profile has reached, I think it's almost at 11,000 now. We, we almost, I think we gained like about a thousand followers in, in about, about 24 hours.

Um, and I think Coinbase might have something to do with that. Dota, you gave an interview with them yesterday. Would you like to talk about that? Yeah, it was really, really fun. We're super

Dotta: thankful to them for giving us a platform and, and talking, you know, I think one of the ideas that we get to talk about there that was really interesting, I'll share now, we'll dive into it as we wait for a bear sneak to get his mic figured out.

Yep. Uh, I've been thinking a lot about this idea around, um, the, the concept of like derivative art and how NFTs make derivative art, like more interesting how there's, how there's new opportunities for [00:03:00] derivative art in ways that didn't happen before. And I think a big part of it comes down to this idea of, um, like plagiarism versus citations.

And so if you think of it in terms of, uh, If you think of it in terms of, uh, uh, like, like writing a paper, right? If you copy a paragraph from so that someone else has written and you paste it into your own paper, uh, well that's kind of considered plagiarism. But then if you cite them properly, then that is, you know, research.

Then you've cited someone because you're not sort of taking credit for someone else's work as your own. Yep. And I think you see that scientific advancement, uh, goes really far when you have that, when you have like a culture we can build on each other's, like research and writings. Similarly, you see this with code all the time, right?

Like there might be a library that has like 10,000 lines of code. If I need something different from it, I can take that, I can change it, I can change a hundred lines that I can publish my own version, and nobody bats an eye twice. In fact, that's how open source is built. Open source is [00:04:00] built on everyone building, on each other's work, sharing, remixing, redistributing.

And it works because there's a really clear attribution chain. You can always see who wrote the, the original lines of code, right? You can go back and find which lines of code, you know, Satoshi wrote on Bitcoin or Linus wrote on gi. And so, um, that actually, that open source revolution, uh, just completely changed how softwares developed and that you have these layers of like innovation built on top of it.

Okay, so how does that bring us to NFTs, which is I think that like. What you actually see is the same thing with derivative punks like fast food punks or you know, vegan punks or whatever you actually have. Uh, it doesn't make the original punks actually less, like in the old world, maybe you'd say, oh, you're stealing my artwork, or You need to pay me for anything that you create based on my work.

But with NFTs we have this like very clear crypto cryptographic attribution chain. And so it actually lets us, um, kind of build onto this new innovative, like open source art in a way that [00:05:00] wasn't really possible before. So I think one that's interesting, I'm really excited to see where it goes this year.

And then two, I think, you know, we for sure wanna encourage that with wizards. I think we have a couple of projects that may be derivative wizard collections coming up. Um, and I want to say publicly too, if anybody's interested in kind of putting those things together, we're happy to talk and help organize.

But more importantly, I think it's a really interesting trend that we are seeing, uh, in NFTs and particularly

Elf: wizards. Yeah, I've, I've got a good segue to bring Bear Snake in on that. Um, so what, what stood out to me, what, what what you just said is how like, like this open source, um, ethos is, is alive and well in the scientific community and in the, the coding community.

Um, and the result of that is, uh, projects get stronger, research is better, and end goals are more, um, fruitful, I guess. Um, and, and to my knowledge, nobody has ever built like a, a, a fantasy world, [00:06:00] uh, in this decentralized open source way. Um, so that's what's super cool about us. I will say that this 62nd animation that we're doing right now, I put a lot of ideas that were sourced straight from the community into this 62nd piece.

And so I can't wait for you guys to see it. I imagine you guys are going to like, gonna dissect this whole thing and like figure out all the Easter eggs and, and where each image came from. Um, but speaking of animation, uh, bear Snake, are you available now?

Bearsnake: I was stuck in a quantum shadow. There was a bit of an interruption I broke out.

Hello everyone. Welcome. Hey guys. Um, so yeah, I mean I think just speaking to what, what the guys are saying, I think really as you guys know, we strive to become more than just an N F T project. I think we're already sort of achieving that in a lot of ways. Um, lore not [00:07:00] floor. Um, I think the announcement today really is a big step forward for us.

Um, as a project, and I think it speaks to sort of where we're headed. And so it just was announced and, and there'll be a bunch of different, um, sort of outlets covering it. But we announced that we're in proper development of a, of a long form animated television show. We've partnered with, um, tit Mouse animation, which is probably the preeminent, um, animation studio in ho in Hollywood.

They produce some of your favorite, um, animated shows. They do, uh, the Legend of Vox Machina, which is coming up. It's a fantasy show. They do big mouth, they've done super gel. They've done, they do Star Trek lower decks. These guys are the best in class animation, and what this really means is we are on a path now to.

Have a proper television show. Um, and of course we, we happy to like, answer any [00:08:00] questions, but really what's what's great about this is a lot of times, um, people set up projects and TV with partners that really just facilitate the, like, the production of it. And they just help you make it. And it's sort of, you know, you pay them and they do it.

And, and that's that. I think what's special about this is a shout out to Chris Penski, who is the founder and old friend of mine, uh, of Tip Mouse. And you know, I, over the years we, we've sort of danced and tried to do some projects together. I, uh, emailed him about wizards months ago and within like two minutes wrote me back, was like, ah, man, let's go.

So I think there's, there's a passion here for fantasy. There's a passion to do new things to, uh, sort of break the mold. Um, and we couldn't be luckier. To have them as a partner. These guys deliver the best in class. And, um, you know, the style, uh, [00:09:00] that we're gonna be going after, I think you guys will see when we release the trailer.

Um, but it's, I like, I have goosebumps. I'm so excited. I don't think there's any project out there that has, um, really put this kind of force behind an actual show. And I think, again, it's like, it's, it's one sort of step in, in the direction in many directions that we're gonna be taking the world wizards.

And I am like, if I could, if I was physically able to do a back flip, I would, but I'm not that, I'm not that coordinated or strong. Um, but it is so, so exciting. You know, we will, we'll be casting voices, we'll be developing it. Um, and ultimately, and we want to hear from you over the next couple weeks and, and months, um, where you guys would like to see this show.

I, I think. What's gonna be really interesting is typically when you take a show out to market, you kind of like put your pitch together and you go to Netflix and you go to [00:10:00] Hulu and you go to Amazon and you go to HBO Max and all these Pete Fox and you say, Hey, this is the show. What do you think? Um, I think for us, really our, our position is, I don't want to ask permission.

We don't wanna ask permission to do anything. It's do you want to be a part of where we're going? Because if you don't wanna do it, someone else is gonna wanna do it. And I think that's only possible because of everybody that's on this call, that's everybody that has supported the project from day one and all the new people that are flooding in.

Um, so we're really proud of it. And literally, it, it's, and a lot of people say this like, In, in, in a lot of regards, but it is literally not even possible without everybody that's a part of this community. So I hope everybody's as excited as we are. There will be, you know, um, more updates, you know, we'll be bringing in writers and packaging it.

Um, and what's also cool is, um, tip Mouse actually has a first look deal at Netflix. So anything that [00:11:00] they develop, they kind of have to take to Netflix first. And Chris was like, is like, it might be a slight wrinkle, but is it okay that we have a first look deal at Netflix and we'd have to go to them first?

And I said, I am totally fine with going to Netflix first. So, um, it's really exciting. Uh, and let's fucking go. I just,

Elf: yeah. So, so yeah, if you guys, if you look at our Twitter, I think we just posted it. The, the article is in, um, I, I think it's, uh, animation World Network.

Dotta: Um,

Elf: And, uh, I'm, I'm hoping other places will pick it up, but Animation World Network got the exclusive.

Um, and I just wanna say that this would not have been possible without Bear Snake. Um, this is why we brought Bear Snake in. Yep. I mean, I personally have a few loose connections around town, but Bear Snake is really the one who opened the door on this one. Um, and so I just wanna thank him publicly. I know Dota has been very happy with Bear Snake's contributions [00:12:00] as well, so thanks buddy.

Dotta: Yeah,

Bearsnake: thank you. To the moon. To the moon

Elf: and, and, and, and also what, what Benic said about, um, like we couldn't have done this without the com, the community. Yes. That is huge. Um, you know, one of the biggest difficulties, one of the hardest things to do in, in the entertainment industry is, is to get a studio, to take a gamble on you.

Especially if you're unknown, especially if you have a, a brand new project that nobody's heard about. It's, it's nearly impossible. And so if you can walk into 10,000 characters, what's that? I said Yeah. With 10,000 different characters. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. The esp, yeah. Especially with something weird like that, they're not gonna know what the hell to do with it.

Um, but, but if you can walk into the room with like, Hey, we've already got an audience. We've already made money on this, we've already done this and that with a project that's already big and well loved, then, um, you know, if you walk in the room with that and a bear snake next to you, [00:13:00] then they'll start listening.

Bearsnake: Yeah. It's, it's, it's super, it's super exciting and, and so much more to come. But this is, this is a big one for us. Yeah. Yeah.

Dotta: Check out the other work. If you're not familiar with Tipt Mouse, cuz I know that, you know, like I'm an animation outsider and I, you know, I was familiar with some of their work, but not them as a studio and like, check out some of their work.

I shared some in the secret tower. Um, you know, they are like extre. They're, they're the best and they can do tons of different styles. Um, I think one of the styles that, uh, you guys, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the styles I've seen from them that's fairly similar to what we would be going for with Wizards would be like their legend of Vox machine.

I mean, it's not one-to-one Exactly, it's a different show, but you can for sure see, and that, uh, like similarities and sort of the style that we're going for. Do you wanna talk about the style a little bit, elf? Just so folks kind of like, people will ask, oh, is the show gonna be in pixel art? And, you know, I think the answer is no, but maybe it's worth like talking about,

Elf: um, Yeah, it's, it's not actually gonna b let me, let me look at Leslie of [00:14:00] this legend of Vox thing.

Um, oh yeah, sorry. I shouldn't, uh, like I'm speaking as

Dotta: an outsider, which is like, it's not gonna look like, you know, big mouth or something. Like, it's not

Elf: like Yeah, I mean, it's, it's similar. It's the, the, the show that I'm, I'm, I keep referencing is, is cast venue on Netflix site. I really love the style of that show.

Um, a lot of people in the industry call it American Style Anime. Um, so I'm, I'm sort of hoping to get, get more closer to that's looking style. Uh, but yeah, I mean, you know, we, we've, we're, we're already working with, with Tip Mouse on this 62nd piece. Right now. We're developing it, we're developing the look, we're doing the storyboards.

Uh, like that is definitely gonna happen. And it, and it's, it's already in production. Um, So, and it's so cool. It's, it's looking so

Bearsnake: cool. Yeah, it's really good. It's like full action packed. Yeah. So many Easter eggs and yeah, it's, so, it's pretty rad. [00:15:00]

Elf: And one thing I'm trying to really do with this is sort of subvert the fantasy genre cuz, you know, fantasy's very popular.

It's been p popular for a long time and my, my biggest fears are is that an audience or a studio's going to just look at it and think, oh God, not another fantasy thing. Um, so like, I'm, I'm really trying to like, invert all the tropes in fantasy and, and just like really push it into new territory. Um, so, but yeah, it's, I think we're, I think we're, we're achieving that as, as I, as I look at the production of this thing.

Um, but yeah, the, yeah. So yeah. Amazing news. We had Coinbase last week. We have tit mouse this week. Where, what are we gonna have next week? We got something. Yeah. Well, yeah, we gotta have something. We, we gotta make something big happen. Yeah.

Dotta: I haven't finished souls yet. I gotta get that, get that done.

Bearsnake: Oh, just so everybody's know if, if, [00:16:00] if Doda sounds a little strange.

He, he, he mentioned to us on a team meeting yesterday that he's turned into, um, dev Dota for the past, yeah. For the next two weeks. So he's, he's very busy heads down on, on creating and crafting the, the most epic smart contracts to make sure everything works properly. Yeah. Thankfully

Dotta: the smart contracts are just about done also.

Niki's been helping out a ton. He's been like really instrumental in this process. He's doing a great job.

Elf: Um, let's actually pause and open up for any questions about, uh, this recent news. Anybody want to ask questions? If you wanna speak, just request and if not, then we will move on. You plenty to cover today.

Cool. Um, you know what, actually I was gonna invite, um, Dr. Slurp up. I, Dr. Slrp, if you're, if you're in the, the, if you're in this room, just, uh, oh wait, is he requesting? [00:17:00] Nope, but we got someone else. Um, Tyler. Hello. Hey. What's up guys? Um, in light of that news, how's the script for the show gonna be handled?

You guys gonna bring someone on or? Um, you're also gonna take ideas from, you know, different wizards, how,

Dotta: I know it's really early, but how do you anticipate that being handled?

Elf: Yeah. So let me, let me just say a few things about that and then Snic you can add in. Um, you know, I've always said from the beginning what I would love to do is, is, is cult source our, our stories as much as possible with, uh, the book of Lord being like the first place we, we we stop with in every writer's or meeting.

Um, you know, the, the first rule is like, we never just like make up a wizard out of Paul cloth. We'd pull a wizard from the collection and put them in a scene. Um, and if that wizard has any lore written about it, then we would love to try and [00:18:00] incorporate that into the story. It's, there's no guarantee it'll be like a one-to-one match of what a cult member has written about their wizard, but if we can like, pull little bits and pieces, I think that that's my goal.

Um, as far as the writing process,

Bearsnake: Yeah, I think, I think we look at it like source material. Like when you take a book, when you option a book and you develop it into a show, not every single piece goes in. Some, some pieces that do go in maybe are shifted to make sense for the, like the, the, the arcs and the stories and the characters.

Um, but one sort of major piece of it that will be, that will be fun is always fun is like finding, um, you know, cuz Elf has experience in television, right? I have experience in television. We both like have been on the executive side and on the writing side. And so I think one thing that we would do is because we want to make sure that our focus is on the project, like horizontally across [00:19:00] all, all the things that we're gonna be doing and are doing is bringing in what, like what we call a showrunner.

And that is someone who comes in. Who's run writers' rooms before on other shows, created. Other shows are trusted, um, people that, that, that can, can sort of do the day-to-day. Obviously working closely in conjunction with, with Al Dota and I, um, the team, um, to make sure it's like fits in the proper direction.

But essentially we will find someone, uh, like a proper television writer who will lead the charge and help work with us and translate what, what's happening in the, in the world of wizards into this television show. I also, and I don't know, we've discussed it, I don't know what the implications are, but like, I love the idea of, you know, back to, you know, we always talk about Disney, um, and like the closest you can get to a character that Disney owns, like a Marvel character, Thor, captain Marvel, whoever.

But the closest like you can get to [00:20:00] like having a piece of that, um, is like buying a Sharon Disney for us. Like, I would love to figure out a way to say, okay. If a wizard shows up in a show, how do we tie back, um, value back to that wizard owner, uh, or to the group, or to the community at large? Yep. Um, so it's definitely something that we want to crack the code on.

It's complicated, right? If you have a room of writers and they're just coming out with stories, um, like, I don't think any of them are gonna be able to own wizards, right? Because then they're gonna like wanna put their own wizards in there and, and it increases their value. But I do think like, we'll, we'll come up with a way to, um, organically choose characters and storylines, um, that are random, but also fit what we, the stories we want to tell, and then how, and then how do we, how do we bring value back to back to that wizard holder to the community?

So that would literally put the entire. Sort of ecosystem of how TV and I, and film [00:21:00] and entertainment works with ip, literally on its head, it would, it would melt it down and we'd be rebuilding it, which is the one of the most exciting parts.

Dotta: Yep. And there's a lot of, like, there's a lot of like legal and um, legislative challenges to doing that.

Right. Like, I mean, I think there's an uphill battle there that might take quite a long time to get that to work out. Like,

Bearsnake: uh, and so yeah, I'm not promising, I'm not promising it, but I'm just saying it's something that we strive, it would be cool to do. It's something that we're

Dotta: thinking about. Yeah. That we, that we're like pushing on that.

Yeah. That we would love to be able to do.

Elf: Um, cool. Any other comments, questions about this animation news? Yeah, there's a bunch of new

Dotta: people who came up. I saw kiddo. We've got, uh, I just wanted to say that Bear Snake, bear Snake answered. I had like four questions and he answered all of 'em. So thank you so much. I, I don't own a, a wizard yet, but I love the project and I'm just like, just here to learn and, uh, uh, just [00:22:00] awesome art and I'm really excited for you guys.

I'm

Elf: looking to pick one up, so, awesome. Welcome, welcome to the cult. Thank you

Dotta: guys. Thank you guys. You can put me back as a listener so other people can't speak. I, uh, all my answers were, uh, or all my questions were answered. Thank you. Thank you.

Elf: Uh, hi everybody. Uh, I just, hi, mark. I'm so excited that the hair is standing up on the back of my neck.

Um, I'm, I'm so proud of you all. I'm, I'm moved. I'm profoundly moved and, and you should all be so proud of yourselves and particularly Bear Snake, uh, for all the work that you've done behind the scenes. Um, my, my question is, well basically is about the rights, um, to use the writing in the book of Laura, cuz I wanted to say and put myself on the record right now, that you guys can have.

Complete rights to use anything that I've written, uh, for Wizard, um, in the TV show. [00:23:00] Um, but I'm just awesome. Yeah. But I'm just wondering if you guys are gonna have something for us to sign, um, if we want to give, uh, our rights, because I would, I would like to just gift them to the project for, for anything that I do.

Um, and I wanna make sure that the project is protected, um, because I think the fact of using elements from the Book of lore in the TV show is literally groundbreaking and history making. And I, and I really hope that, that everyone else who's contributed lore feels the same way. Right. Yep. Thank you. Yeah.

Yep. We've been, we are like working on,

Dotta: kind of hashing out the, the legal framework of the rights that we grant to wizard holders. And you bring up a really important point, which is, To make sure that the feeling is mutual. I would guess in, you know, 99% of cases, everyone would be thrilled to see it. Uh, their, their kind of [00:24:00] work from the Book of Lord in the show.

But you make an important point, which is like, we have to make watertight shore, especially as we're bridging from sort of like crypto to meat space. We do wanna make sure that the folks who who are sharing those ideas, uh, agree to that. So yeah, we'll do some thinking there. And I, and thanks also for your generosity.

I mean, we love your poems and that would be

Elf: really great to include them. Yep, definitely. Yeah. I, I wanna see Margaret, the Bard in the show. I, in fact, I, Margaret, I want you to do the voice for the bar. Let's just put it that way. I'll do that. I'll do that. Awesome, awesome. Um,

Bearsnake: cool. That's actually a really good idea is like to source voice talent from, from the community.

How cool would that be? Yeah,

Elf: totally. Um, cool. Uh, any other questions, comments, animation? Yes. What's up? Crypto Nitrix. Hello. First, [00:25:00] uh, congratulations. I'm really happy for you and I know you're like the hardest working person I know. And so this is awesome, and I feel like more urgency now to finish writing the lore for my wizards.

Um, I'm wondering if the show is gonna be family friendly or like for adults. Good question. Yeah. Yeah. I, I'm, I'm trying to push for adults for sure. It's, uh, I, I would love to, to really push it far into adult animation territory. Um, not family friendly. Let's, let's put it that way.

Bearsnake: I think there's a way, like, I'll just chime in here and I Yeah.

You know, I think the best shows. Know how to play to different age groups, right? Sure. Um, you know, and, and, and I think, you know, when you say adult, to me that doesn't mean [00:26:00] all the cussing and all this stuff. I think, I think we definitely want to be edgy, but I also think like there's a way to do both and, and do it in a way that's eloquent and tasteful.

Sure. Um, and I know that, I know that's what you mean, but I, I think, like for me, and this skews on a, on more of like, people see it as a kid show, but for me, like I watch adults. I mean, I watch, um, adventure Time and I enjoy that show just as much as my son. It, I think it's one of the best television shows ever.

Um, but like I get something out of it that's very different than my son does. And I think it, the reverse can also happen. Um, my kids, my, my kids can also, they've never, like, they, they've been watching rated art movies since they were like six years old. Um, so like, I, I don't, I'm, I shouldn't be trusted for the bar, but I do think it should be for, it should kind of be for everybody.

Probably not like a little,

Elf: but yeah. Yeah. Let, yeah, let me, let me qualify what I just said. I, I'm not trying to like, like, make gratuitous violence or graphic [00:27:00] sex scenes in the show. It's a, again, I, I would compare it again to cave. Um, if, if any of you have watched that show, there's, there's like brief nudity in it, there's foul language, there's obviously violence, but, um, you know, I, I think maybe a kid could watch some of it.

Um, I don't know. Depends on what kind of parent you are, but I think that's the level of like adult that I'm looking to, to do with this show.

Bearsnake: My kids are gonna watch it. Hell, even if they, even if they hate it, I'm forcing them.

Elf: Great. Um, cool. Well, yeah, yeah. Think what? So crypto nax, I assume you're, you're looking to, uh, write some very crypto nax c wizard lore.

That's why you're asking. Yes. I mean, it's like, I'm good at like, walking the line between being explicit and not explicit. You know, like, so I'm not thinking I'm, I'm not make, I'm not gonna write like a porn scene or anything. That's not, I'm like not trying to do that, but I'm, you know, it's, [00:28:00] you know what I mean?

I know what you mean. Yep. Just gonna sit on a few faces.

Bearsnake: Oh Lord, that

Elf: was a

Dotta: good one.

Elf: I'm gonna mute myself now. Okay, cool. Um, great. Well, yeah, those are, yeah. Great, great questions guys. Um, let's, uh, I wanted to bring Dr. Slurp up, uh, to just, um, talk about something that he's been doing for us. So we've got, uh, the soul burning coming up. As many of you know, we are building the website where the soul burn burning will happen, and we are putting sound effects and music into this thing.

Um, our original burning did, or our original mint did not have sound, have sound effects or music, uh, but the soul burning is going to have sound effects of music, and Dr. Slrp is doing those for [00:29:00] us. Uh, so Dr. Slrp, would you like to, uh, tell us about your process? Yeah. What's up elf? How's it going? Can you guys hear me?

You sure can. Oh yeah. Nice. So basically Elf just came to me and was like, we want to put music to the burn. And like he was like, we went to like ambient, um, and like kinda like letting something to loop over, like this really cool burning animation. And I don't wanna like give anything away about that, but I like, one of the things I was working on was a flame sound cuz obviously like we're dealing with the burn and also like a more like musical ambient like, Spacial sound.

So we like had some iteration. I made some things on my mog, um, matriarch. It was just really fun cuz like, ever since I joined the Wizards, I've been making music for other wizards and groups of wizards and my [00:30:00] wizards. So it's cool to actually like, have like a sound component to the project officially, you know?

Yep. What do you, did you, would you have anything you want to add to it about the process? Well, I, what I, what I thought was cool was how, um, like some of the sound effects, I thought you were just gonna like, use a library of sound effects that you have, but you're actually doing all your own Foley, right?

Yeah. So like, I don't know. That's part, like, I've been playing music forever, but like, and also like recording forever. But one of the things I like doing is just like making everything by hand. So like, for the flames, like I got, like, I tried out a bunch of things, but the thing that actually turned into the flames was a.

Giant sheets of silver foil that I ended up like processing and like, like I had my fiance shake them and she's also a wizard too. Um, and just like random stuff from around the house, like recording it and then [00:31:00] processing it and seeing if it sounds good kind of stuff. And, uh, the synth parts were really fun to make too.

Like that honestly, like part of it I was like inspired by the thrilling chilling sounds of Halloween from, uh, from Disney. Like they have this like old record from like 50 years ago, like a vinyl record where it's just like Halloween sound effects. And my dad used to put it on every year on Halloween.

Um, so that was part of the inspiration. But the other part was just like, what's spooky and creepy and dark and like, Fills the space that Elf made. Like he sent me the burn animations and it's beautiful. Like you guys are all gonna love it. Um, yep. Like I, as I was just trying to like really fit that vibe.

It's like kind of going like between the line of like Disney, like horror sounds and like, almost like king gizzard ambient, like dark metal. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. [00:32:00] It, I, you know, one of the things that's super annoying on the internet is internet is, is if you go to a website and just suddenly music just starts playing out of nowhere.

Like everybody hits the mute button when that happens. But I don't think that's gonna happen with this because it's, It's so subtle and it just works. And, and, and I think you'll expect it. And I think it really adds to the experience. So, yeah. And I think most people, like going to the website are like coming with a purpose, like be a part of this ritual.

Yep, for sure. And, um, and then just if nobody's noticed, uh, the, for the secret tower on our website has just been updated today. There's something kind of spooky happening. It's very subtle. We're stoking the flames, stoking the flame, the flames have been stoked. Um, so if you go to our website, you'll see a little, a little, a little change.

Um, so yeah. So thanks Dr. Slrp. Uh, look [00:33:00] forward to hearing your music in the secret Tower. Um, yeah, I can't wait to hear it while I burn. Heck yeah. Yep. And yeah, and, and, and again, this, you know, this is just what I love is, is using, um, cult members. Ha ha. Having them help contribute to the, the, the world building.

This is, uh, decentralized world building at its finest. Um, cool. Uh, okay. Let's move on to another piece of drama that happened this week. Uh, Lochness, are you, uh, able to speak? Yes, yes. I'm able to speak. Okay. So this is some drama that Lochness has brought to us, um, and it has to do with the mysterious disappearance of Wag Meson.

Lochness. Tell us what happened. There were murmurs coming from the land [00:34:00] of grails that we had something to do with wag me son's disappearance. Others were so bold to accuse the cult of transforming wag me into a toad against his will. We'd like to go on the record and say that this is far from the truth.

In fact, we spoke to wag me himself and confirmed that he was safe. Special shout out to the squires who made this possible. Our weird house was stormed by many of Wag me's. Friends concerned for his wellbeing, and what could have turned into a bra quickly became an alliance. Perhaps wag me himself is a wizard.

Shalles were raised. Jelly donuts were sacrificed in celebration. As the old saying goes, A wizard is never late, nor are they early. They arrive precisely when they mean to. So when Wagley needs us, we'll be there. That's awesome. I love it. So, so yeah, [00:35:00] he's, uh, he's still missing, but, um, I, I suppose when he shows up that that will be his intent.

Right, right, right. Yeah. There, there was a lot of discourse between the grilled Wame song followers and our, uh, wizards special shout out to the wizards who helped us out with everything and yeah, no word from Wame, but, uh, we'll be there when he needs us. I, I have a question. What is the significance of the scissors?

I was just gonna ask that.

Well, they have a multi, they're like one of the only multiuse items, so I'd imagine that you have, you're gonna use them for something in particular, but they have a mark that says multiuse on them comparatively to the other items. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So Wag me distributed a lot of his tools, some of which are reusables, the reusables are [00:36:00] more rare.

And, um, you know, very few people got them. And so no word on what we're supposed to use the wizard, the scissors for, but when we get the word, we'll let you know. Awesome. And, and Lochness, I, I know you don't know for sure, but I'm just gonna ask you to maybe guess. Where do you think Wag Nissan is? Well, well, hmm.

You know, a lot of weird stuff goes on in the weird house, but, you know, word is he might be trying to get through the gate to the seventh realm, so. Ooh. Okay. Okay. Love it. Yeah. Some, yeah. Someday Wag, Wagni Sun will show up with a, with a backpack full of backpacks.

Okay, cool. Um, yeah, that, that was [00:37:00] fun. The, the whole wagni sun drama. I, I, I, I think it's ongoing, in fact. Um, uh, uh, actually, does anybody have any questions, um, or comments about Wame or, or anything really? Yeah. Um, I wanted to, I said before I, I pondered a little bit in the secret tower about it, but I think it's, it shows a really great proof of concept of how like NFTs could be utilized in an actual game.

Cuz like, there's no games that are really made yet cuz games take time. But this is essentially was like a Quest line that was dropped down to like wizard holders. Cause it's like, You had like the initiation for was you needed the N F T to start it and then you got the this like, you know, in order to actually like sign up for the Quest, you had to get the backpack minted and like a very specific timeframe.

Once they had everybody in, it's like, all right, now the Quest line starts, they dropped off the items to everybody to, and then I can imagine that like, essentially it's cooperative cuz they didn't give everybody all the items that they needed. So it's like you have to team up with other people and like kind of party up with people.

So you gotta find other backpack holders. And, you know, [00:38:00] maybe in an actual game it would be instead of like, you know, instead of like, you know, buying or selling from each other, you just like actually just party up together. And then you have like the designated scissor holder who's doing around whatever the scissors need to be done for.

And then you go around and like, I can imagine you going into like the dark part of town, trying to find wame and, and maybe fighting some, you know, some special battles there. And then maybe at the end of the Quest line there's like, you know, A super special rare item you can only get for participating in that question line.

And it's like tailored to like what your N F T is cuz your NFT helped made it. And then like, let's say it's like, you know, magical scissors, like MAs dev Devin's magic scissors or something like that. And like, item is mine. I could like, and if I, if I traded it down the line, or if I sold it like five years from now in the game, it would still be named after me and it would have like, you know, my icon on it or something like that.

You know, I think like, it's really awesome. It shows as like, we don't have the game like any kind of games yet, but like, this is just a text bake game. They use, they use like, you know, they use like, uh, artists and writers to make the, the whole storyline out about it. So if you just implemented to a game absolutely perfectly.[00:39:00]

Absolutely. Yep. Yep. This space is just so much fun. Um, some, some other people came up, uh, comments from the news speakers,

Dotta: Hey,

Elf: yeah, Edward. I wanted to ask, this might be a really normy question, but I see a lot of people talking about burning the wizards, and I just really, I just don't get it. I dunno what it means.

Yeah, it's, uh, we, it's a token burning event. Uh, daughter, do you wanna talk about it? Oh yeah. Was that Flynn?

Dotta: Yeah. Yeah. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Yeah. All right. Okay. So for those, uh, of you who are just tuning in, burning Your Wizards, so we are, um, just 11 days away from an event we're going to great burning.

So they were 1,112 souls, uh, sorry, flames that were distributed to the earliest holders in the earliest [00:40:00] writers in our book of Lord. And on all Hall, you'll be able to, if you so choose, uh, Your flame nft, as well as your wizard nft at a chance for a soul nft. Um, and so the mechanics there that we've talked about is that, uh, in many cases, in most cases, you'll receive a soul, which is, uh, you know, your wizard who has been passed through the flame and the results of that process.

So maybe you receive a, a ghost wizard or, um, you know, that said dark magic is unpredictable and you might, uh, get an undesirable outcome. We've told folks that the, the odds of getting an undesirable are probably about one in 10. Um, there've been some questions, actually, maybe this is a good time to address them.

Some questions folks have asked me and they've said, you know, uh, oh, are the souls, do they have affinities? Like the original wizards? Um, do, are, do the [00:41:00] affinities match? The affinities match. If I burn a five, a five affinity wizard, will I get a five A five soul? Um, how does the order actually matter? What traits are gonna pull through?

And, you know, uh, I think we'll leave those things to, uh, be discovered by the brave souls who decide to burn their wizards. There's, there's no time limit. Um, and, uh, you can burn your wizard for as long as you hold the flame and the pie is open. Um, and really for almost everyone, the soul that you get on the other end is uniquely your wizard.

No one else can, can burn your wizard for you. And so there's, um, uh, a uniqueness to to, to the wizard that themselves that goes through. Um, I see, I see. I can tell you that like, um, yeah, we're trying to balance pulling through random, you know, balance random traits, randomness, um, risks, and really just have like a generally good time for mostly everyone.

And I, I know that everybody's gonna use everything in their [00:42:00] power to really snipe the rarest rare, um, which they should, but we're, so we're doing everything we can to make it like super fun, unpredictable, fair. Um, and I think, you know, we've started doing the, well, we're almo, we're almost done the artwork, and they are just, you know, not to oversell it, but they're, they're very good.

I'm very happy with it. So, yeah. So that's, that's the deal with burning, burning wizards. Amazing. Thank you so much. I appreciate

Elf: it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I, I would just say, um, you know, some people have asked about affinities. Not every wizard is gonna be like a perfect one-to-one translation. Not everything is gonna carry over.

Some things will, some things won't. Um, so just, you know, I, I would say it's best to like err on the side of caution. I mean, again, you know, as we've said all along, this is a risky business. Maybe you don't burn your favorite wizard expecting an upgrade, maybe burn your least favorite wizard. [00:43:00] Um, cuz it's a gamble.

Um, so

Bearsnake: I don't know. Don't you think that there's, is there an upside Alf for, for burning? Maybe another, uh, like a wizard you love? Is there, what, what does that look like potentially?

Elf: Well, it's, it's, I mean, it's just a gamble. That's all I can really say. You, you, maybe it's, maybe it, it won't be an upgrade.

Maybe a five, five Affinity no longer has a five five. Like, look, all I would say is the basic guideline is, is burn something you're not afraid to lose?

Dotta: I

Elf: wanted add, so it doesn't, it doesn't look like, um, when Meet and Ape Yacht Club did their serums, it's not like the the traits will carry over directly in a serum in your, well, they be an altered version.

Dotta: No, they, in some cases that will happen in the sense that the traits will carry over and you'll get an altered version in many cases. Um, in that sense it's true, but in another sense, it's not true in that, um, [00:44:00] mutant apes was inflationary, right? They had both the M two and the M three serums, and you kept your original ape.

So you had, I don't know the exact numbers, but it's somewhere between two to three X of the supply, right? There were 10,000 bor days at the beginning, and then there was, you know, someone else tell me, but I think the number was around 20 to 30,000 by the end of the serums being used. Um, in this case it's a bit different because what you're actually doing is you're burning your original wizard.

You won't hold your original wizard at the end. If you choose to burn the wizard, you're replacing your, you're burning the original wizard token, and you'll receive a sole token in return. Okay.

Elf: Okay. And the dark magic

Dotta: is, uh, dangerous. That's right. Yep.

Elf: Okay. Nice. Edward, you've got your hand up. What's up?

Uh, first of all, I am

Dotta: just, I, I have gushed

Elf: over this project and this team and, uh, the other wizards many, many times and in many different places. But, [00:45:00] uh, I mean, we all knew that something was coming, uh, and I foolishly told everyone to expect it weeks ago, but I think the, the, the weight has been so worth it.

Um, and I'm so excited. Uh, the fact that I could possibly own four different television characters is just something that, like, it kind of blows my mind. Uh, so I, I'm very excited. Um, so first of all, I wanted to say that, um, awesome. And also I have a question that's a little bit off topic, but hasn't been spoken about in a couple weeks.

So I just was, uh, curious if there was a quick update, um, on the

Dotta: merch box.

Elf: Um, Any thoughts, feelings,

Dotta: concerns,

Elf: questions? Oh,

Bearsnake: I can answer that if you guys want. Is that cool? Yeah. Great. All right. So it is absolutely still happening. There are crazy supply chain issues going on right now. I don't know if you guys know, but, um, [00:46:00] Asia is literally no one's even talking about in the news.

A Asia's literally shut down like Vietnam Chi, like all, like, it's all covid shutdown down. We were using, um, we're trying to use, uh, all sort of made in the USA stuff. Um, and we want to keep a level of quality. So long story short is absolutely happening. We're, we're really, really happy with what it is and, and what's in the box.

And I would say in the next two weeks, don't hold me to this, but like this is the best of our ability to hold this timeline. It's like the next two weeks-ish, we'll be able to, um, show some of the pieces that are in the box and then there'll be some other stuff maybe, um, That will be in there and then it will ship.

And I'm, I'm thinking it's probably beginning like end of November, beginning of December, that people would actually receive it. And so maybe it's something that, uh, y'all can wrap up and, and have under the, the tree or [00:47:00] whatever you celebrate during the holidays. But it's ha it's definitely happening.

That's awesome.

Elf: Um, so what's in the box? Bear Snake?

Bearsnake: Oh, well that is the question. What's in the box? I dunno if you guys know that movie or that reference, but you should go see it. Seven's a great movie. Gwyneth Paltrow's Heads in the box. Sorry. Spoiler alert.

Dotta: That's what you should expect.

Bearsnake: Um, I, let's just say like there's cool stuff.

There's some stuff that like y'all are gonna love. And why ruin, ruin the surprise. Fair enough.

Elf: I'm very excited. We'll know some of it

Dotta: too, like, well now it's like the main bit. So I don't like, I don't think we'll keep

Bearsnake: any surprises. We're get in trouble and it's, and, and, yeah. It's, it'll, it'll, it'll be, it'll be fun to watch people unbox.

And I think part of it is, and Lochness has a, has a background in this. She's done a lot of sort of, um, of these gift boxes before. So she's really put a lot of thought into the experience of opening the box. Um, [00:48:00] and not that like fireworks are gonna pop out when you open the box, but we, presentation's important to us, quality's important to us.

And so like, shout out to Lochness for, for helping maintain and, and hold that line of quality.

Elf: It's, it's, yeah, we want you guys to feel like influencer. So like your wizard, wear wizard, it's, it's not a glitter bomb is it? Lochness. Oh no. But there might be some jelly donut spillage around

Dotta: how

Elf: if we just sing glitter bonds, we're using the filling as glue.

Um, cool. Um, any other questions, comments? Yeah. Hey, can everyone hear me okay? Yep. Yes. Um, so first up, congratulations. That's a huge step for the team and looking forward to, uh, whatever comes out of it. [00:49:00] Uh, second of all, I was wondering whether you folks had talked to any of the other NFT teams that had either launched or were planning on launching.

Uh, an animation and whether you've sort of had the conversation of like the pain points they've run into, like regarding legal talent, anything else that could pop up in, in production?

Dotta: I think one of the good things is that like our team has a pretty strong background in animation, so both Elf and Bear Snake come from that industry.

That's their, like, expertise. So we haven't necessarily like, leaned too hard on other N F T projects, um, because we're just, you know, relatively young. A few months we've been like kind of conscientious of the, the, like, the rights issues from the beginning. And so, um, you know, I don't think that we've had to lean too much on other N F T projects because, We feel like the animation is actually one of the really challenging parts.

And so, [00:50:00] uh, I dunno, we have good deep expertise in that area. I don't know, guys, you want to bear snake or you wanna talk to that?

Bearsnake: Sorry. You, you cut it out. I didn't hear that. I didn't really hear the question. Yeah,

Elf: I'll, I'll go, I'll go ahead and answer it. It's, uh, yeah, bear Snake and I have worked in animation for a long time.

I've had a pilot or made, I've had a three episode mini-series made. Um, we're, we're not really so much worried about the pitfalls of the animation, uh, industry itself. It's more about InCorp the, the NFT side of it, which I don't think anybody has figured out. I mean, even, we even had to like switch lawyers to, to help figure this out at one point.

Um, so yeah, that's, that's probably what our challenge. We also have like, talked

Dotta: to some of the other projects. So, you know, like we're, we are like acquaintances with some folks in other projects, you know, like I was chatting with, I don't know, you know, GFU from. Um, like punks comics yesterday or something.

So like we're, uh, like they've made some [00:51:00] really good progress in that space. And yeah, if you know of other projects we're kind of working on an animation that you think we should be talking to, I'm super happy to kinda like hop in the dms. Cuz I think that's one of the great things about this industry is just like everything is growing so fast that like, it's really about helping one another, pulling each other up.

Um, like totally all of the NFT devs are all pretty much in like this one Discord channel. And it's great because if you have like any questions, you know, like, like the person who wrote the contract is right there. And so I think similarly as we kind of develop more interesting like IP rights and um, like more like as NFTs mature in this, like bridging over to meet space, being able to have groups of creatives that like help each other is just so important.

So yeah, happy to like, talk to him when you think is good.

Elf: Totally, a hundred percent. And yeah, I did just mean the intersection with, uh, animation and NFTs. Not specifically like anything, just in the animation space. But yeah, super excited. [00:52:00] We'll, we can talk specifics in the dms, but yeah, very excited to see where this goes.

Great. Very cool. Um, any other questions, comments

Bearsnake: while we wait for someone else to come up? I just want everybody to know, um, you know, the timeline for this is, you know, for animated projects, this long form shows is, is quite a bit. So, um, oh yeah. We may, we, you know, just, just be patient with us. I think a lot of projects that we love, you know, they put stuff out and it's quick and, and, and we're, and we're so happy to see the animation of the mediums being embraced.

But like when, when you go into, um, This process. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's long-winded to say the least. Um, so just, just just know that, and know that, um, you know, there may come a time that we'll call on you guys to sort of help push it through, you know, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, [00:53:00] like, our community has a lot of power, I think more power than, than they know in, in this world.

So excited to, uh, to lean on you guys when needed. So, be ready. Yeah.

Dotta: Like on the show deal. I, this is in part of my tweet thread too. Which was, um, this idea that like the deal that we have with Tip Mouse is to develop and then like pitch and sell the show. And so, like, what that doesn't mean is it doesn't mean that we automatically have all of the funding required, uh, to do this show.

Like just to throw out a number. This isn't like a budget that they've given us, but it might cost like, let's say $10 million to do a full season or something. Um, and then it doesn't actually mean that like, uh, they necessarily have like a buyer or a place for it to, to go either. We still sort of have to jump through those hoops of like raising money, which we, you know, we're pretty sure we can do Finding a buyer, which again, we're pretty sure we can do like, um, but even in the best case scenario for this show to sort of like show up in your TV is still like months, like we're talking like 18 months in the best case scenario [00:54:00] because we're looking at like, you know, AAA quality, like in everybody's living room.

Uh, project, but of course it doesn't move at crypto speed. So there is still like, you know, a timeline. But Tip Mouse is amazing. We love them. They get wizards, they get like what we're trying to do with NFTs, they have a first look deal with Netflix. Like they get how to make, produce, organize, and sell shows.

So, you know, they like, it's gonna take some time, but we're like in the most like, competent

Elf: hands that, that we could be in. Yep. Marcus, Devon, what's up?

Dotta: Um, I, um,

Elf: so you said you guys are, are you guys have, um, said about funding. Are we you gonna first have a pilot or is it gonna be a full series that we're actually looking for for the

Dotta: start?

Elf: Well, we've, we've already started production on a trailer. Yep. Yeah. Yep. [00:55:00] And, and we're, we're paying for that just out of our, out of our company treasury.

Um, that it, it's, it's weird to call it a trailer. I don't know what it's called. It's a 62nd shore. You can think of it as a trailer. We've started that. It's in production. It's definitely happening. It's gonna stand on its own right. As just like this really cool piece. Um, but like, it's also gonna be used to pitch, uh, the series.

Um, so you know what, as I was talking, I just forgot your question.

Dotta: Yeah. Just ask you like, are you gonna do a pilot? Or like, how does this, how does this become like a full show? Yeah. And we don't have con. We don't have concrete plans for like, oh, this is how we're gonna raise the money. Yeah. Um, you know, for example, um, I don't, I don't, I think this is like public information.

I'm sure it is cuz it's all over the internet. Uh, so that show we were talking about with like Vox, um, what's it called? Vox Machina, what's it called? The, it's the one that's based on the d and [00:56:00] d show. They actually raised a Kickstarter for that show. Um, so they, they wanted to make it, they wanted to kind of keep control so they need to raise the funding so you can go and look at their Kickstarter page about how they all banded together.

They did the concept art, right. And they raised a Kickstarter, um, and I think that they raised in their Kickstarter something like $10 million. And so, um, you know, the, that's an option I think for us going through Kickstarter feels kind of silly when we already have maybe sort of NFTs as kind of this like natural fundraising mechanism, but it's like so early in that process.

I don't wanna make any commitments in terms of timeline or MEC mechanics or any of that because we just, like, at this point we don't know. But you know, as you can imagine, if we were to go out there and say like, oh, we've got, you know, this set of NFTs or these sort of like rights or this sort of derivative artwork, and if we can raise 10 million, we'll do a full season of a wizard show that will be on Netflix and there's these kinds of rights.

You know, I feel that we have very good

Elf: odds [00:57:00] that sort of crypto Twitter would come

Dotta: together and like, you know, we would get enough

Elf: funding to at least

Dotta: have a bigger buyer be like, interested to fund the rest. Right. So, I mean, that's kind of our

Elf: belief at the moment. Yeah. I, I'm hoping we don't have to do a kickstart or anything.

I'm pretty sure we won't have to. The best case scenario is we get a buyer, uh, bear think, do you wanna speak on that actually?

Bearsnake: Yeah. I think, I think in animation you typically don't do, um, a pilot because it's not really cost effective. Sometimes they'll do like a pre, what they call a presentation where you animate, you know, five to 10 minutes and you have a couple scenes, and, and people can get an understanding of what the actual show is and the characters and how it works and looks and smells and feels.

Um, so I think it's really about developing the show, bringing in a great, a great show runner. Um, and then ultimately what, what I want to do, um, and I think it will be ever [00:58:00] evolving as, as we all are, are talking about, is like, what I don't want to do is I don't want to ask permission to do things. You know, I think, I think like the Hollywood elite or the barriers to entry these development executives that, um, sort of get to say yes or no to things.

Um, I don't really like that. And I don't think they really even have a pulse on what people actually want to watch or not. It's like the, the, the, the, the idea used to be is like these gatekeepers used to basically use their subjective opinions of what is good and what is bad. Um, and I think the internet as a whole has completely crushed that.

Um, and I want to continue that trend. I don't want people who don't necessarily, you know, I don't want like personal bias or opinions of one person to stop a show. And I think the more that we do on the front end to develop this creatively and then come to the table with a [00:59:00] community, maybe funding, all of a sudden, um, it completely like switches the table and puts us in a power position.

And also it, it allows us to hold onto more, um, More, more creative power and ownership, right? Because if we just go in and we have a piece of paper, this is the show, they own everything and they just like give you, you know, the, the money being made in television is much smaller than it used to be on the creator side.

So if we come to the table with something that's fully functioning and we could do it ourselves, that's when they usually come in and, um, you know, and, and we get to throw our weight around a little bit more and, and we get to sort of maintain creative control. So I think ultimately we'll find our way. I feel very confident that, um, we'll get this to where it needs to be.

Um, and yeah, that's typically how it, how it works.

Dotta: Great. Hundred percent.

Elf: Thanks. [01:00:00] Other speakers that just came out.

Hey, uh, I just wanna say congrats to everybody and. It's a huge, uh, achievement. You shall be super proud. Um, hate to, um, ask for more, but I'm curious if

Dotta: walk cycles are still on the

Elf: radar. Yep. Uh, the turnarounds are sweet, but, um, wanna make walk? Yeah, for sure. Good question. Yep. They are def definitely in process.

Um, uh, we, yeah, it's, it's just all, all the artists are, they have other projects going on. I'm drawing all the souls, but, but yes, they're definitely coming. Um, it's, yeah, they're definitely coming and uh, I'm glad you like the turns. Yeah. I wanted to say one thing about the turns is, um, okay, first of all, I'm loving that everybody is using them in memes and in other artworks and everything.

Um, The real point of those walk cycles is, uh, so like at an animation studio, the, [01:01:00] the senior character designer, they'll design the characters and then they'll, they'll like draw, draw a turnaround of that character. You hand it off, and then all the other character designers in the studio, they, they use those to draw poses from.

So if anybody wants to like, use those turns to make their own poses, now you have like every single side of the, of the wizard, you see, you see what it looks like from every angle. And it should be much easier to draw these wizards in any kind of pose you can imagine. Um, so that's the biggest reason why I did those turnarounds.

Um, the turnarounds also help my pixel team to do the walk cycles more, more easily. Um, so yeah. So yes, walk cycles are coming. Sweet. Thank you. Yep. Ecto dot eth. What's up man? That was me. I'm, uh, just stoked on everything you guys are doing. Uh, I thought it was someone named Diamond Hands who just said that.

Yeah, sorry. [01:02:00] Yeah. Hey, everybody. How, hi, diamond Hands.

Dotta: Hi, Tom. Hey,

Elf: good. Hey. Oh, awesome. Uh, I, I don't know how I got up here. I don't know if I clicked the button or what my phone was in my pocket, but, uh, y'all, y'all have been amazing and excellent, uh, super gracious in the Discord. Um, you know, it, it is, you know, I, I do a little bit of writing for 10 Ktf, not a part of the team or anything, just a, just a community member.

But, um, Really appreciate all that graciousness y'all's show. And it's really interesting to see those parallels in, in the way that y'all are moving and world moving. And as I'm listening to you talk, I'm actually thinking the rarity of your guys' Genesis materials. Um, you guys only got bags out of that, and as you guys do this d and d, you know, kind of, I've never played dungeon and dread dragons, but like, sounds like, like along that storyline, like build the story as you go.

And I, I, I think it's a really interesting parallel to think about and consider there. Um, and I just, yeah, appreciate the work and, and all the historical writing that has been done to this point. I, I think [01:03:00] we should pay a little homage to that too. So, um, just wanted to say thank y'all. Really appreciate it.

Right on, man. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah,

Bearsnake: that's a great pocket dial.

Elf: Uh, any other

Dotta: speakers? Yeah, I see Tom came up. Hey Tom.

Elf: Hey. What's up guys? Uh, hey dude, I am, I am beyond soaked about this. I actually didn't even know I was on stage, but, um, until, Diamond said, like he didn't know, and then I looked anyways. Um, yeah.

Holy shit. I can't, I, I'm, my mind is so blown right now. Uh, it feels like I'm like hovering above my body because if I'm understanding this correctly, like all the crap that the OG punks talk about of why they would turn down an offer for almost 10 million for their punk is just because of, you know, the, the rights and the options of what are, of creating a brand around that punk, like making it kind of the new, uh, controllable and verifiable who was controlling it when they said [01:04:00] something?

Uh, talent, right? So instead of an actor where you have human fallibility behind it and that actor gets canceled because they said something shitty. Um, this is a token and it's like, okay, well the person who owned it at that time said something shitty and we transferred owner ownership away from it. Or we, we asked them to.

And then boom, that whole character can stay the character that they're in the lore, but the human that was playing them can't fuck it up. Like Kevin Spacey fucked up House of Cards for everyone. Once he said he was gonna dittle little boys or whatever. Um, like I can't even watch the show, but if it was like, well, Kevin Spacey was a robot and ownership of him has been transferred to someone who wasn't a piece of shit who didn't Dittle Boys and like, boom.

House of Cards is amazing again. So I mean like, like I'm gonna throw up with how big this is and also like, I'm a huge adult swim fan. Metalocalypse and tit mouse. So

Bearsnake: like Yeah, yeah, yeah. Metalocalypse. Yeah. Well, let's just say I feel like we may need to get robot, Kevin Spacey involved in something.[01:05:00]

Elf: Jersey wants to make robot Kevin Spacey. NFT for me. Uh, I'll totally, I'll totally pay for it. Yeah. Not, not, not Kid Dittle version, right? Version. Well, no. Cause it'll be me and I don't kids, you know what I mean? I think this is our Eds episode.

Dotta: My life. I would have to transfer

Bearsnake: it. The show's apparently rating.

Yeah. This, this is, this is a TV 17 Twitter spaces, I think. Yeah.

Elf: Well, should be Tip Mouse, right? What's

Bearsnake: that?

Elf: Well, that, that is kind of like tip mouse's target demographic, right? Totally. Yeah.

Bearsnake: Yeah. They, they, they have produced like 70% of all shows probably on Adult Swim, but they do do children's programming too.

So they, they, they run the full spectrum, but like Big Mouth is probably one of the dirtiest shows I've ever seen. Um, yeah. And yeah. And,

Elf: and so this will be what age show or [01:06:00] T B D can't say yet. It, it, it should skew more adult. Um, I, I, I, I compare it to the cast venue ship series on Netflix. I, I think that aid range, whatever that is.

Think

about,

Bearsnake: think about Game of Thrones, think about, um, Lord of the Rings. These are, these are shows that skew older, but, um, are broad enough that, you know, many people can watch it, you know, and, and, and so many people cannot watch Game of Thrones. Oh, I guess that's true. Game of Thrones. I'm talking about Lord of the Rank, sorry.

Game of Thrones is very adult. I'm talk, I guess the comp, the comp is, uh, the comp. You're so strict. Doda. Um, no, the, uh, the comp is Lord of the Rings. I think it, like, you know, adults really take a lot from it. I don't think a little kid is gonna be super interested, uh, in Lord of the Rings. Um, I think you have to be above 12 to be watching a Wizard show.

Elf: Yep. Um, any other, uh, any [01:07:00] other speakers comments? Oh, we're running late today. Yeah, we really are. I have no idea how to get down, so can someone kick me outta here?

Bearsnake: Come on, diamond.

Elf: I mean, I'm willing to stay, I'm willing to hang out, but I just, you know, I want a clear space for other people, so. Sure. Yeah.

Yep. Um, yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry we didn't get to do shoutouts. We didn't get to share Laura today. We're like 10 minutes over, but, um, I'm loving these questions and comments.

Dotta: Oh, maybe we should do Laura. I mean, maybe we should just do Laura and close it out. I feel like that's so important. Yeah. N if NF T D M T is gonna share, right?

Elf: Yeah, he, I, I don't have, they, has he requested? I'm not sure where that person

Dotta: is.

Elf: Uh, I'm here guys, if you guys have any time. Yes, let's

Bearsnake: do it.

Dotta: Hello. How's it going? Yes. Yeah, he's here. He's on stage. He's on stage. Oh, great. Yeah, let's let, let's do that and then we, we'll gotta close out cause we're over time.

Yeah, yeah.

Elf: I know we're short on time, so I could kind of like [01:08:00] read like a, a shorter version of it than if anybody's interested, they can kind of just go to the book of floor to read the

Dotta: details. That's, that's up to you. I think, you know, we think Laura's really important, right? Laura's one of the anchors of this community.

So I think take your time, but we'll just close out. If someone has to leave, they can

Elf: leave and Yeah. I don't want you feel rushed, so thank you guys. Yeah, please.

Dotta: Alright.

Elf: Well, I guess to give you guys a preface, it's, uh, it's no secret that I like mushrooms, so I kind of like vibed out the other day and like let the magic flow and I guess like the outcome was like way better than I was expecting.

So I, I've kind of been excited to share it. So, um, this is my preface and it's based around illusionist, gasper of the oasis. But I managed to like somehow also tie in like all my other characters as well. So I don't know. It turned out pretty cool. So I'll just start. Here's a preface. You love it? Yeah.

It's called Alpha and Omega. Since the beginning of time there have been whispers of the Garden of Eden whispers of a place where Nirvana exists. Whispers of a place where [01:09:00] peace, love, and harmony resonate in abundance. Throughout the astro Plains whispers of a place where Mardi Gras never ends. No oasis, a dream within a dream In this state, time and space are one.

Thought forms have manifested into physical matter right before your very being. This is the spear world where our soldier left a frolic and play freely without the physical limits or judgments of a human vessel. True free will. This is the place where energy itself is conceived and manifest its presence on the physical plane as a human starts and imagination, purity still exists here.

All souls are in an eternal childlike state, yet within them contained sequences of the universe older than time itself. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. All sorts of knowledge, power, and inspiration comes from this space within time. It is the fountain of youth that legends are told of. As you'd imagine.

The primordial souls that inhabit this plane are both wise and highly advanced. These souls are our ancestors, the [01:10:00] first wizards to experience life and death. The first beers to leave Oasis and have a physical existence. They understand what it's like to be human because they are the first. They've reincarnated time and time again accumulating infinite amounts of knowledge and experience with every life lived.

Only resurrecting again in order to restore peace and harmony on earth. But as with every great tale, there is a problem. Each time a soul is born, it forgets its previous lives, thus forgetting all knowledge and purpose in the process. The ancestors needed to create a solution to this problem and did exactly that.

They figured out a loophole. Our ancestors were able to figure out that if they built a monument while they were alive, that would stand the test of time and be around for them during a multitude of lifetimes, that each time they reincarnated their previous monument left would trigger all past life memories.

Upon contact, our ancestors dis discovered the first safe point, the first checkpoint in a sense. Thus, pyramids were born, a great tool used for [01:11:00] remembering their higher selves, who they truly are and why they returned to this planet. And then, um, I kind of go to like this, uh, mini pilot and I called it, uh, as above, so below.

And, uh, this is how it starts. One day balance is broken. A great evil is brewing in the universe. A new hero must be born from the soul of an ancestor. This timeline tells the tale of illusionist gas, part of the oasis, while the ancestors are living in harmony on the actual island of Oasis, the menacing order of the Lima on Earth, performing rituals of black magic in order to resurrect the evil ones.

With the promise of immortality and power beyond belief, they are loyal to the demons that feed on their ego. The evil ones are an ancient group of negative energies that lie dormant in the most sinister parts of the universe. The darkest crevices of every human psyche go headed by nature. They solely exist to spread lies, destruction, and illusions of suffering.

For over 2000 years, the Order of the Lima have been unsuccessful, [01:12:00] unsuccessful until the soul of Alistair Crowley awaits from his slumber from within the darkest depths of the universe. He's the first human to commit the act of murder. The first dark wizard flash forward, the greatest good in the greatest evil are born simultaneously, both Gasport and Alistair find the vessel to reincarnate through.

Alistair grows up to lead the order of Del Lima forming his own inner santum within the society consisting of only the darkest, most powerful voices from across the land with the illuminates its mission being to successfully be the first to resurrect the evil ones in over 2000 years. 2000 years ago, a mysterious comment landed on the planet and became known to man as the sacred flame.

The sacred flame can never be extinguished for reason, still unknown. Allister and his henchman Illuminati planned to rediscover the flame, using his power to sacrificially burn alive, to unknowing neophyte del limus in an attempt to resurrect the evil ones by means of pleasing the lords of darkness.

The spirit of gas bar needs to travel through time once again [01:13:00] in order to prevent the sacred flame from getting in the wrong hands. Shatter the illusion of suffering, casted over the lens. Stop the evil ones and the spirit of Alistair grow. And, and of Alistair Crowley this time for good meeting many friends and fos along the way.

Life's about the journey, not the destination. Who knows what else occurs. And then, um, yeah, that's pretty much the summary of it and all the details are in the book of lore. I don't wanna like take up too many people's times, but like, there's a lot more that I wrote. But it, it pretty much like goes into like the actual like journey and the story and like the different people he meets and like how his, uh, You know, his familiar became like the familiar, like in his hometown there was a, I guess a Alex Crowley ended up being successful.

I don't wanna ruin it, but there was, you know, getting crushed by the rocks. So he had to transfer the soul of his best friend into the soul of the cat. And that's how he ended up with his familiar. So like, you know, all the, all the details and all the rest of the Laura and the book, but that's just what I wanted to share for now.

Dotta: That was so good.

Elf: Thank you so much. I love it. Yeah. [01:14:00] One thing I, I love about seeing you guys as writing is, is I can tell that you're having fun writing it. Like so many of you are just getting so deep into your lore. It's so detailed and you write with such depth and there's history behind everything you guys are writing.

It's, it's so great.

Dotta: And I love this idea of establishing a checkpoint, uh, of your memories through the next life, through a pyramid. I've been thinking a lot about this idea of like, Um, about how memories might be like encoded in our dna. A uh, of like how, how sort of you learn things from the people who came before you and that that gets encoded genetically and passed on, which maybe is even like a sort of like physical form of reincarnation.

And so it's interesting to think about ways that you might be able to externalize that and I think it's so interesting. Ah, thank you so

Elf: much. Very cool. Awesome guys. Um, okay. Sorry we did [01:15:00] not get to shout outs today. Um, there were so many great stuff that you guys have been doing. 3D prints, awesome illustrations, voxel art.

I still wanna know what was happening with Basia Crypto who had wizards like spread out on this table with like, it looks like breakfast. I'm, I'm so curious about that photo, but maybe we will get into it next week. Um, thanks again everybody for coming. This has been Wizard Wednesday with Elf. And Doda and, and who else?

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