Wizard Wednesday Episode 23 Transcription

Wizard Wednesday Ep. 23

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Elf: [00:00:00] Okay, everybody, welcome to our cult meeting, a k a Wizard Wednesday. This is Elf and Dota channeling in from the quantum Downs. Uh, we were just brought in by the musical stylings of do's favorite Norwegian band, the Shags. I had never heard of this band until just about 20 minutes ago. So, uh, Dota, why don't you tell us about your favorite, favorite band?

Oh, man.

Dotta: I love, we only have an hour, right?

I

Elf: was just,

Dotta: I, I was just looking up actually on Wikipedia. Uh, and Wikipedia says that the, the shags were actually, they're from Fremont, New Hampshire, which is like literally next door. Uh, Uh, to where I grew

Elf: up in New Hampshire. Oh, okay. But I,

Dotta: I love that band so much.

Okay. So that song, the Philosophy of the World, and they have a whole album and it's really, uh, awful and it's, and and, but it's like both wonderful at the same time.

Elf: So [00:01:00]

Dotta: this band, like, uh, so, so it's these three sisters, right? And they, like, were playing, I think, pretty much in high school, and the music I think is just so, um, atrocious, but the words are so genuine.

So it kind of reminds me like something like, um, the White Stripes, but maybe it's a bit more like, I don't know, say like modern jazz, like Anthony Braxton. And, um, and they're, uh, one of the things I just love about that band is just how earnest it is. Like when you listen to the lyrics, um, and you listen.

They have another song called Halloween, which you should listen to all the time and mm-hmm. Uh, It's, it's just so pure. And, you know, they were never really discovered because they didn't really have the internet. There was no real good distribution for something that was so like awkward. And I just feel like, you know, it's a good representation of like, what we're trying to do here, which is like earnest creation regardless of skill, can like still find an audience in adoption.

So yeah, listen to the shags.

Elf: [00:02:00] Nailed it. That's exactly right. Um, yeah, I, I, as you were talking, I was thinking of so many like unknown bands that I know who sort of fit that description. Um, but yeah, maybe that'll, that maybe that'll be the theme for our music selection for the next few weeks. Um, love it. So yeah, Doda, you and I, we both have a thousand things to say, um, for Wizard Wednesday today.

Um, I know I do. Um, so let's just jump right in. Um, You know, I think, uh, as far as shoutouts go, um, one of the things that really stood out to me this week was The Amazing Tattoo by Tan or on, on Tanya Del Rio's arm. Um, Tanya, if, if you want to come up and say a few words about that, um, just feel free to do a request.

Otherwise I can just gush about it myself. Yeah. Uh, but yeah. Donor, what did [00:03:00] you think? Yeah, I, it

Dotta: was like breathtaking is really like, when I saw that I like was just speechless. Like, it, it was so beautiful, so well done. It was not one but two wizards integrated, like the ruins and the fox and the mushrooms and it was just so in, it was just

Elf: incredible.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Tanya's coming up. Great. Hello Tanya. Hey. Hey. Hi.

Dotta: Oh, so

Elf: when did you get your tattoo, by the way? Like how long ago was

Dotta: it? Cause in that photo that you posted, it felt, it looked like, I don't know, it was either like super fresh or just healed up. I don't

Jitcy: know. It

Elf: was super fresh. I got it on Friday, Friday evening, so I took it right after the session.

So it was super shiny and

Jitcy: brand new.

Dotta: And then who is the artist who drew those? Oh,

Jitcy: Hemi.

Elf: Hemi. Yeah. She's a Korean artist who, um, and it's a studio in LA called June Jung Art. And yeah, she's amazing. I've been wanting to get a tattoo from her forever, and I got on her waiting list and then as soon [00:04:00] as I got accepted, I was like, I wanna do wizards.

So

Jitcy: yeah, I was really excited.

Elf: Love it. Well, we are honored to have a tattoo on the famous writer Tango. Thank

Jitcy: you so much. I

Elf: really, I mean, I'm just like blown away by this project. I couldn't be more proud to have this tattoo, so thank you guys for giving me a bit of a push to do it, so I really appreciate it.

Awesome. Very cool. Love it. Um, yeah. So yeah, that was one of my favorite things This week, um, Bonzo has made a new Wizard News video. I have not watched the most recent one, however, I did watch the last one. Um, and just a real standout thing for me in that video was, uh, at the end of it, um, bam, bam did a law reading.

Which was like, it was told in this like really sort of, I, I would say experimental format. I didn't really understand what was happening in the very beginning of it. And then as she [00:05:00] told the story, I, I sort of understood. Um, but regardless, bam, bam is just an excellent storyteller. Um, she's got a great voice.

Um, you know, we, I don't know. We, we need to, we need to hear more from bam, bam. I think, um, I

Dotta: love when I'm able to tune it in and listen to, like the reading of the book of lore and yeah, it, it's been, it's been great actually seeing how much the book of lore is growing. You know, she said that they got halfway through and, um, one of the things I realized is people have probably been adding to the back.

Like I know that D's added Laura this morning at like position 13 or something. And so there might be, you know, we might need volunteers to for a second read through once we get done the first time.

Elf: For sure. Yep. And then, um, and then speaking of the Book of Lore, uh, we finally updated the cover with Oz's new artwork.

Yeah. And, uh, I'll just say it looks a thousand times better than the, the Book of lore cover. I did.

It looks really good. It [00:06:00] looks amazing. Um, yeah, you know, I'll, I'll say like, like the first thing that, that really just like this little detail that stood out to me was, um, like, okay, when I made the book of Laura, I was like, like the one thing I kept wrestling with, I was like, this, this book doesn't feel like it's like sitting in this space properly.

It looks like it's just sort of floating. And I, and I, and I was thinking like, do I need to draw a background for this book to sit on? And if I do, that's gonna be a whole nother piece of art. And like, I'm, I was just like, how do I integrate it? But Oz came up with a great solution, which is just like, Feather the edges and make them dark, and therefore, therefore, therefore, it'll look like it's sitting in this black space.

Um, and I'm just, I'm like, I can't believe that never occurred to me to do that, but, but yeah, Oz did an excellent job. I'm so excited for it. Um, there, there's a few little bugs on the offsets that we still need to fix, but, um, the cover is just, it's just gorgeous. [00:07:00] Yeah. Thanks Liz. Yep. Um, and then, yeah, and then, and there's so many shout outs that we need to give.

Um, but I think, I think I'm gonna jump to something else. Um,

Dotta: I'll share some tweets of the, uh, some of the commissions and artwork. I'm sharing them here in spaces, so if y'all wanna flip through those, we, we'll

Elf: talk. Yeah. It's just the user generated content is just getting like, next level. Um, it's, it's like stunningly good.

It's shockingly good. Um, and, and this sort of is like gonna touch on this, this theme that I wanna sort of focus on, uh, for this show today. Um, and it's just, it's just all sort of about the new media landscape. And I know that term gets thrown around a lot and it means something different every year. Um, but I, you know, I, I'm, I'm just, I'm gonna take it in our direction for a minute.

Um, and just sort of what I'm, I'm seeing happen. [00:08:00] So if you look at like the, uh, the, the sort of evolution of media in the past, I don't know, like 80 years, um, One of the biggest forces that shapes media is the financial structures underneath them. Um, and so if you take, uh, television for example, uh, when cable TV was a thing, um, that was all based on an advertiser model.

Um, to, to simplify it, it's, it's basically the way the studio survived was that they would make content that advertisers could then buy ad space on, um, in the form of TV commercials. And then that revenue they made, uh, would, would ha have help the studio pay the bills and, and help them make more TV shows.

Um, and so what that meant though was that the content all had to be super advertiser friendly because that's who paid the bills. Um, and so the [00:09:00] advertisers had great influence, uh, over the shape of the content that the studios were allowed to make. Um, and then, so that of course, meant that the studio execs, they were not solely concerned with what audiences want.

They were concerned with what advertisers would want. Um, and so, and so that was like, that was like the model for like, I don't know, like 60, 70 years. Um, And then a big shift came along when these subscriber based platforms came along. Like Netflix is like the main player in this space, HBO's another, and there's, there's others.

Um, and they don't have ads. And so therefore they don't need to be concerned with what advertisers would want. They don't have to be advertisers safe. And so suddenly you get these studios that are allowed to make content, uh, where all, all they care about is appealing to real human beings, real audiences.

Um, and so now these, these very compelling [00:10:00] stories and characters emerge, emerge. Like, like Game of Thrones is like something that is not ad safe. Um, but it's like some of the best TV that's happened in the last 80 years. Um, yeah. And I think

Dotta: some of the. If, yeah. And if I can interject, I think Yeah, go for it.

The issue too is like safety and like, uh, like in terms of like, is it experimental or whatever. And then there's also just in terms of like niche, right. You know, so playing on that idea of tv, you know, for example, if you, uh, you know, get a spot on a news channel, CNN or something, they might give you a minute or five minutes or something.

And so the kind of the pace of TV is one clip right after another. Yep. And so the, the view has always kind of been that people are stupid. You have to be super fast. Yep. You have to be like really upbeat and really entertaining. And it turns out that we're like, once we had the internet where you can kind of go directly to people, people are interested in listening to a lot longer form con content.

Like people will listen to like, Two hour lectures on [00:11:00] podcasts, people will listen to, you know, Joe Rogan, where it's a three hour interview. Yep. And there's, it, it wasn't that everyone was, was stupid or had low attention spans. It was just, that was kind of, you know, what dictated the needs of sort of advertising and, um, and, and we're seeing, you know, more and more niche content be viable.

Right. And, and more and more characters. You know, like for example, I was telling you about this earlier, that like, not only in Star Wars does, uh, like the Mandalorian get his own show. Like this week my kids were watching a show that's all about like Boba Fe, it's like the Boban. Yep. And so like, and, and it's just crazy that you can kind of have, uh, all these different, these different facets of, of, of the entire world can have.

More and more content created about it because you don't have to like be constrained by television.

Elf: Yep, yep. Yeah. Even just like the pace you were talking about, how they only have these little clips. The pace itself was [00:12:00] influenced by ads because they had to relieve room to show the damn commercial every, every like what, 10 minutes.

And so even that like shaped the content. Like everything was just like beholden to the advertisers. Um, and so and so, yeah, it's the financial structure underneath all this that like shapes the form of media. Um, and so yeah. So then with the subscribers like Netflix and hbo o um, the content yeah. Became longer form.

There was no com commercial breaks. It was more experimental, a little more interesting. And, and so the relationship between the studio and the audience changed. Um, okay. And then so what's the next step in this evolution? Um, clearly the financial structure needs to change to create a new model. Um, and we of course, believe that we are on the forefront of what that is, uh, with Forgotten Ruins.

Um, the audiences are not only the primary consideration of what Magic Machine makes, uh, they're [00:13:00] also active owners and creators of the studio ip. And none of this was possible until the advent of blockchain tech. Um, so, you know, basically we, we just think that this is the next step of the evolution, um, in this media revolution.

Um, and we are very excited about it. Um, and I, and I've, I've got a lot more to say on this, but I don't, I don't know if you wanna Yeah. Comment y Yeah, I

Dotta: think that, that, um, You know, we've, we've, we were talking about this week, uh, how, I don't know if you were gonna talk about this, but you, we are talking to art students, particularly like at Cal Arts and trying to pitch to them like, Hey, why should you come work for us?

And most of what they've really heard about NFTs is sort of this negativity. And, you know, I've been working on a blog post that's sort of like, you know, my love letter to artists who hate NFTs. And we sort of, yeah, we feel that it's just like everything that you [00:14:00] think is kind of like evil about, um, you know, artists getting exploited or overworked or not having their work not valued or not overpaid.

It's like we see ourselves as trying to correct that. Like, we love your artwork for whatever it is. We want to pay you. Like a good wage for like creating it. Um, yep. And it's like the most sort of like, Pure. We're not trying to sort of like mint a bunch of NFTs from your artwork. Even. Like, it's just, we want like to see our world unfold in whatever medium you're interested in.

Elf: It. It's, it's so funny, like every criticism, um, that's levied against NFTs is, is not true at all. And but, but it is true of like this, the corporate studios, it's like, oh, you're gonna take advantages of of us and you're gonna like exploit us and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, who are you talk? Are you talking about Disney?

Are you talking about Dreamworks? Because that's not us. We're, we want you to like [00:15:00] actually make something that's unique in your own voice. You're not a cog in the machine. Um, anyway, but like, yes, you bring up a next, like, this is a good segue into the next thing that I wanted to talk about, which is like pitching a project like ours to non crypto people.

Um, And like we, we've had to do this a lot in the last few months. And so we have to like, talk about it in a way different way than we talk about it on Wizard Wednesday, for example. Um, you know, and one of the biggest things that, that we have to shift is like, we don't lead with, we are in the N F T project.

Um, if we lead with that, then it, it, like, it's, it already comes with like a ton of trouble. Yeah. Um, so like I've like honed my talking points when I'm talking to non crypto people and so I kind of wanna just like, sort of just go over those, um, briefly, like what they are. Um, And it's, it's, it's actually given me like a really interesting perspective on this [00:16:00] project.

So, so like one key talking point is we are built by and for the creator economy. Um, and, and that term creator economy is like a real big buzzword, um, in media. It, you know, it's, it's not necessarily new and it's constantly evolving, but like that, that, that word, that phrase I think carries a lot of weight in what we're doing.

Um, another thing is like something we tweeted in the very beginning, which is like, we are world building tweet by tweet. What that means is we are creating on social media, um, like, like our project is, is developed and is unfolding in real time tweet by tweet on social media, which is like different from like its standard studio, which like builds for two years behind doors under secrecy.

Um, we are building like right out in the open in real time. Um, another key, key component is, uh, we have pre provided the [00:17:00] building blocks, which are these creative primitives, the wizards themselves, um, to get our users started. Um, the wizards are ruins. They are like the creative seed from which you extrapolate all this creative content.

Um, and, and, and then the next point, the follow up to that is, is, okay, why would users do that? Because there is a financial incentive structure in place, meaning you actually own the IP that you're building for. This is different. This is not just like making fan art of, of the Simpsons, and you don't actually own the Simpsons.

This is, you actually own the piece that you're building for. Um, Another key component is like the relationship between Magic Machine and the Cult. It is vastly different from the relationship between Disney and its audience. Um, this is a new type of relationship that is now only possible with the advent of blockchain technology.[00:18:00]

Um, and, and here's, here's a real key component. Blockchain slash NFTs are really only one tool in our arsenal. Um, and they're, they're, it's, it's a very vital component and it's like core to everything we do, but it's, it's really just like another tool that's like we are using to change the way a franchise is built.

Um, and, and we like to say it's disrupting these legacy media models. Um, and, and then finally, um, this is not even theoretical. It's not just white papers and dreams. This is. Actually already happening with the, the tit mouse thing, the comic the game. We are already seeing it and we are seeing it happen at scale.

Um, so those are sort of like my pitch points to non crypto people. Um, do or bears Nick, if you guys wanna chime in. Yeah, I think Or anyone else really. Yeah,

Dotta: it's, it's interesting cuz it all these words like [00:19:00] taste so like sour in my mouth, like when I talk about like, Um, you know, building intellectual property or user generated content or like, yeah, you know, that we're gonna be like the, the, the highest grossing revenue, um, franchise of all time.

Like, I do wanna be that, right? Like, I wanna be on that list. But at the same time, it's like not really the point, like become a franchise, right? Like, my kids don't look at Harry Potter and think like, oh, Harry Potter is such a great franchise. Like they, what they think about Harry Potter is like, they love the dream of like, playing quidditch or like going to Hogwarts and like, you know, um, like taking a potions class or like the heroism that they see in those stories.

And so for me, like I, you know, for me that's really the end goal is not to be like the highest revenue generating franchise, but to be like the greatest group of stories en enjoyed by like, the most amount of people, um, ever. [00:20:00] Yeah,

Bearsnake: that's, that's, that's actually, that touches on like exactly how, cause I have to spend a lot, unfortunately, spend a lot of my time talking to people who really have like a knee jerk negative reaction to NFTs.

And, and the thing I tout most, that I talk about most is not like, oh, we sold this many NFTs or we've done this much revenue. The thing I love talking about

Jitcy: is like, we're

Bearsnake: inspiring people to write and to create every single day because like a lot of, a lot of, like a lot of our job in doing comic books and trying to sell a TV show and doing a game is to prove that there is uh, an audience for what we wanna make.

And a lot of times people prove the audience through financial data, but it's so pleasant to prove that there's an audience through the creation. Story. And, and honestly it hits a lot harder [00:21:00] when you, you know, I, I forget who it was, someone tweeted, um, something to the effect of like, I was so nervous and I've never been a creative writer, but now I spend 30 to 60 minutes a day creative writing like that.

I just like fell back in my chair and was so happy. And that's how I think about what we're doing and why we have value to these traditional platforms. Yeah,

Elf: that's, that's awesome. And so I, I came up cause I wanted to just piggyback on what you guys are saying cuz I, I do more on the, uh, side. I work more on the side of bringing the masses into crypto and crypto gaming.

Um, and, and you guys are focusing on the quality so much, which is awesome and that's why this project is kick ass. Um, but I'd love to like, so one of the coolest things is the idea of making this accessible to people who don't know anything about crypto. And, and I'm talking about like the terminology and what I've kind of centered around and I've, I've got a whole like Twitter thread pin to my profile about this is, [00:22:00] um, the idea of ownership.

And you were, and you were hitting on this earlier, uh, elf, um, it's, it's just the idea that you actually own these assets. And it could be anything. It could be an achievement, it could be like a daily record that you won one day. It could be your character, it could be an item, it could be gold, whatever it is.

You've never really owned them until now. Yep. And, and all. And I don't, if you go through that thread, if you go through, talk to me in general, I almost never talk about value. Never talk about selling, never talk about gains. That's all bullshit cuz how do you sell something you don't own? Yep. It's all derivative of ownership.

And this is the first time ever we've actually been able to own anything in a gaming kind of context, uh, at scale. Right. This is, it's an across borders. The, the, the siloed, you know, there's no siloed, uh, access anymore. It's, it's a completely revolutionary idea. So, I wanted to add that in. Cause we're, we're, you know, I'm working at bringing the next 500 million gamers into crypto and that's, that's my pitch is Senator, around the ownership [00:23:00] side of things.

Dotta: One of the things that we, um, we've been working on doing, uh, merch this week and we just list, just recently talked to, um, someone who, what we really, really like, I don't know that we've engaged him formally, but he's worked on merch for like Studio Ji and a, a bunch of other kind of like companies where it's like really high quality, high end.

Um, and I'm pretty excited to start working with him and talking with him more. Um, and the, uh, one of the things that he said was, um, It's really interesting to look at your project, cuz what you actually have is, most writer rooms only have like eight people in 'em, but your writer room actually has like 10,000 people.

And, and it was really fun because a lot of people that we talk to always bring up the issue of like, oh, how are you gonna have consistency in a world where you have like 3000 writers? Yep. [00:24:00] But he was super optimistic about it, saying, this is amazing. You have a a, a world where you actually have 3000 writers.

And I, I love that idea of that like the, the sort of consistency is actually not a problem because you have all these people working together.

Elf: Yep, yep. Um, and, uh, Andy, your, your pinned uh, thread is, is super great. You guys should check that out. Um, but yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's super great stuff. Um, I, I was, yeah, I was gonna say something about, um, The comic and, uh, I can't remember who somebody just commented.

Um, someone, I can't remember why I was gonna pivot to the comic, but some, something somebody said made me think about it. Um, well, because Andy

Dotta: said, because Andy said, oh, I'm working on building that, bringing the next 500,000 people into NFTs through gaming. And that also reminded me of the comic, which is sort of, you know, kind of, that's one of the [00:25:00] things we're thinking about doing with the comic is being able to use it as a tool, uh, to help people get their

Elf: first nft.

Yep, that's exactly why I thought of it. Um, yep. I lost my train of thought cuz there was a siren outside. So. Yeah. Uh, yeah, just one of the, one of the cool things that we're working on right now is, um, Is, uh, the comic, we've mentioned it in the past, but it, the, the, the really, the real, uh, problem we had to solve was like, how do we distribute this thing?

Um, you know, we talked about tokenizing it, we talked about printing it, we talked about the hybrid model. Um, there, there's just like, so many ways to do it, and I, and I think we've, we've kind of, we, we've kind of got a path, uh, structured. Um, so like, but, but first lemme say like the w we think what the point, one of the points of the comic is, uh, we wanna get it into the hands of non crypto people.

That's actually more important. Um, we talked about the, the three paths that we wanna take in [00:26:00] 2022, and one of them is the IP path. Um, and the, the point, one of the things, sorry, go ahead. What you're talking about is the distribution

Dotta: of the comic, but maybe do you want to give a little tease about like, who's working on the comic, what's inside the comic?

Maybe talk a little bit about how it's the tech comic itself.

Elf: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean the, the first script is written, um, and, uh, we've already passed it over to the artist and then, um, the, the colorist, uh, will take it over once the artist starts drawing the pages. Um, so yeah, it, it's, it's well underway.

It's just, uh, yeah. And maybe I won't go into the specifics of how we distribute, but, but yeah, the, the, the point really just is we want to get it into the hands of many, as many non crypto people as possible. Um, and, you know, perhaps even like, put a little explainer in the back for like, um, how to get your first N F T, um, you know, it's, we, we don't wanna like give it, give this, uh, traditional media piece to crypto [00:27:00] people.

Um, we want to give, uh, we want to give this, this piece to non crypto people, to introduce them to crypto, if that makes sense.

Dotta: Yeah, exactly. Like I would love, like I remember when I was a kid, I might even talk about this a couple Wednesdays ago, uh, like as a kid I would read Nintendo Power Magazine and um, and what they would say is like, oh, draw your favorite fan art of like, you know, Mario on Yoshi or something.

And then we're gonna like, you know, give, like, give a reward to a free subscription or something. And, and so my friends and I would sit down and just like draw, you know, we'd draw whatever colored pencils and yellow it in. And I don't think that I, you can draw in the envelope too, and I don't think we ever got printed, but I love that idea so much.

Like, that's so aligned with what we're doing of like, I would love to have like little contests in the comic book. Yeah, I'd love to have a couple pages in the back that's sort of like, get your first N F T and you know, maybe we have like a hope or something that people can, can, can register if they have the, if they have the comic.

And, and ideally we'd be able to [00:28:00] get a comic to everyone in this room, everyone in the Discord. But, you know, we can get you multiple so that you could give it away to a friend who like is maybe not into NFTs yet. I think our goal for this is really not to create kind of like some super exclusive token that now trades for 10 grand on, you know, opens sea, but really rather to provide like a little bit of story.

You know, the show is gonna take a long time, the game's gonna take a long time. And so being able to provide just like a comic that everyone can enjoy, our kids can enjoy. It's not particularly precious in terms of monetary value. It's literally just around like getting the stories of wizards out into the hands of people.

Bearsnake: Yeah. In, in, in a weird way, it's an education vehicle. Um, we're putting it in a wrapper that people can understand and are familiar with. Um, yet within within that vehicle, there will be a connection to Web three and, and something I'll change. It's, it, I, I think it, it's amazing what can happen when you [00:29:00] stop trying to make as much money as possible.

Right. When you stop trying to over, like, overly financialize and like, think about margins and all the things that people think about in business, especially around ip, it's amazing how powerful it can get. Um, it's, it's exciting.

Dotta: Yeah. I, I it's like we, even in this conversation of like the merch fellow we were talking to earlier this week, he, um, one of the things we said to him is we're like, look, first and foremost, like, you know, we don't wanna lose money, but we want, we're right now, we're just trying to get.

Wizards out into the world in like both digital and physical and just like getting into people's hands and, and getting like things that people will love to collect and it's not really about making money. And, and you know, he is basically saying that's just like a really good advantage because we don't, we're not kind of beholden to sort of like, oh, we have to move so many units before we can do a game or something like that.

So yeah, the comic, I'm really looking forward to. It's gonna be [00:30:00] pretty high end in terms of art and it's, I'm really excited to get it out. Yeah, it's still a couple months out yet, it's not like, Next week or anything

Elf: for sure. Yep. Yep. Um, very cool. Um, yeah, let's see. I've got so many other things I wanna say.

I'm not sure what, well, I have one thing,

Dotta: which is Yeah, go for it. Um, that there's really big anti-big potion court protests planned for next Saturday. Um, so, you know, you and I keep a neutral stance on the matter, but I would say you should keep a close eye on the, uh, respective channels.

Elf: Okay. Yeah. Is, is this, uh, does this have anything to do with the subreddit that Magus was ear created, or is this something totally different?

Uh, you know, I don't know

Dotta: the the moderator's official position on big potion on the subreddit, but you for sure should. If you're a redditor, you for sure should check out slash r slash forgotten rooms. Um, you know, I have thought I love that. Like I use Reddit. I've been there a long time, [00:31:00] um, and I think it's a fun channel for us to use.

I've even thought about like if we should automatically post lore, have some sort of bots, but I don't wanna overrun it with bots right away. Let's just let it take, uh, organically. But yeah, if you use Reddit, check out our forgotten rooms.

Elf: Hi, Matt Zuki. Matt.

Dotta: Hey, what's up? Hey, hey. Do you, do you know about big potion or anti-big potent protests?

Oh yeah. We're not supposed to be talking about those right now until we have all the, everything set up. We don't wanna

Elf: get, we don't wanna

Dotta: get

Jitcy: our plans ruined. Okay.

Elf: Awesome. Um, okay, cool. Well, let's see. There's, uh, I can't remember, did I mention the, uh, the, the Wizard Party happening in the Thirsty Wizard right now? Did I, did I talk about that?

Dotta: I don't think so. No,

Elf: not yet. Yeah, there's a, there's, there's a, yeah, there's a Wizard party in the, uh, thirsty Wizard in Worldwide Web three, um, at the Wizard Tavern [00:32:00] and, uh, yeah, I think it was organized by Druid o Ferre.

So, um, so yeah, check that out. You know, world, we, you know, we always talk about Worldwide Web three. We love what they're doing. We love that they built a special tavern for wizards. Um, and so yeah, I think there's a big party happening in there right as we speak. Um, and then speaking of, uh, web three, um, An upcoming meta, uh, Atlantis World, uh, is building a very cool clubhouse.

We, uh, we are t we retweeted, um, the, uh, preliminary artwork for that on our Twitter timeline. So it's looking great. Um, I'm, I'm loving what Atlantis World is doing and I can't wait to see more. Um, and then, then there's something called Raid party doda. Do you know much about that? So

Dotta: I've been talking to founders there.

You know, I honestly don't know much about the mechanics of the game. The founders friendly and they're customized, uh, for wizards. So I know they're working. [00:33:00] I don't really

Elf: know much more than that. Okay. Cool. Cool. Um, and then, uh, and then there's like an FTX giveaway. Um, normally we don't talk about giveaways, but FTX is like a pretty big deal.

Um, so I don't know if you wanna say anything about that. Like FTX is doing like a new FT platform, right?

Dotta: That's right. I think it, it's already working the way that it works. I mean basically it's, I don't know if you'd call it custodial cuz it's managed by their smart contract, I suppose. It must be. So you depo, so the way that it works is you have to deposit your NFTs into their smart contract and then you can kind of trade, uh, off chain on ftx if that's where you like to trade.

Um, so I think it's interesting, uh, I'm interested to see how it plays out because it does take like gas to deposit and withdraw. Uh, but yeah, if you want to trade wizards, um, that's the place you can do it.

Elf: Very cool. Um, okay. And then I had one other little [00:34:00] like, um, I guess rant or whatever that I wanted to talk about.

Uh, and it, and it sort of, it sort of follows from what I was talking about earlier with just like, um, user-generated content and how our project is, is sort of the next stage in the media revolution. Um, And it's, I don't know this, this is kind of just an interesting thing. I came across on YouTube, um, a couple months ago.

Um, so I don't know if anybody here is familiar with the YouTube creator. He's called Super I Patch Wolf. Uh, and he's just, He just makes some of the best videos, um, about meme culture. It seems to be like one of his specialties. Um, and so he, he put out in, in 2019, he put out this video about The Simpsons, and it's called The Bizarre Reality of The Simpsons.

And it's like, I don't know, maybe like a 30 minute video. And it just, it's, it's [00:35:00] resonated with me for years and it's made me really think about like, um, the media landscape and, uh, how, um, these, these ips get formed and how they evolve and how they shape. Um, and so, so yeah. So he dealt with the Simpsons in this particular video.

And about, you know, as most of you know, the Simpsons is like one of the oldest TV shows in television history. It's still freaking going. Um, But the crazy thing about it is like, it's totally changed. It is nothing like, uh, what it started out as. The Simpsons are just like, like they're the, the characters, the storylines, the, even the animation itself, it's just totally different.

It's nothing like it used to be. Um, And so, and, and, and, and it's, and it's not as good, frankly. It's, um, you know, for me, a really good example of how the Simpsons has changed is I saw this video, this other YouTube video of The Simpsons, where they did this [00:36:00] brand partnership with Balenciaga of all things, the, the fashion brand, Balenciaga.

Um, and the result, th this video is like the total antithesis of what Matt Gr Graining would've created for the Simpsons in the early days. Um, because in the, in the early days, the Simpsons, they used to, uh, lampoon capitalist culture, they would've skewered high fashion with witty jokes. Um, but now in this piece, they've just totally, uh, mutated, uh, Marge Simpson into some distorted version of like a real housewife housewife obsessed with runway fashion.

And then like, Homer, just like totally indulges this, this fantasy. In fact, the whole town of Springfield, just like. It's just like, it's just like a big ad for Balenciaga. It's, and, and they totally changed the characters to, to make this ad to just sell clothes. Um, and so, yeah, so the Simpsons are basically dead.[00:37:00]

And, and the icing on this death cake is of course Disney now owns them. Um, and so, and so the question in this video by super I patch Wolf is if they're dead, how are they still surviving? Why are they still on air? Um, Because they're not able to tell witty stories that critique modern society. Uh, the characters are a shell of what they were.

They have lost all humanity. So how is it that they're still relevant? How are they still on air? And so a super, I patch Wolf, he argues that it's meme culture that's keeping them alive. Um, the, there's, there's so many memes about the Simpsons on the internet. Um, there's entire Instagram feeds that are, that are just dedicated to Simpson's memes.

There's the Simpson aesthetic. There's like, there's like a music genre on the internet that's just, that just deals with Simpsons. Um, and so basically, uh, the, the, the beautiful thing about this meme culture for the Simpsons is that, [00:38:00] The, the meme form of Simpsons is actually able to tell stories with humanity.

It actually tells stories that speak to a more authentic culture, rather than the superficial commercial culture that we see in the show itself. Um, and so through these memes, these new themes, these new styles, these new tones allow the Simpsons to grow and stay relevant. Um, uh, so, you know, why do I bring this up?

Um, I, I think there's, there's something interesting about this, uh, that sort of parallels with what we are doing with Forgotten Ruins. Um, you know, if, if, to me it's like what happens if you build this meme culture component into the project itself from the very beginning? Um, what happens when you. Build and incentivize the user-generated content as a primary part of your project.[00:39:00]

Um, it, it's a part that's developed in parallel, not as an after earth afterthought, but as a vital piece of what the studio is developing. It's, it's an interesting experiment at the very least. Um, but it's something I think could be huge if executed well. I've never,

Bearsnake: I've never heard that breakdown of meme culture create, uh, keeping the en like the, the core entity alive.

I think that's really interesting. Yeah. I also, I also think just for what it's worth, because I've spent so much time in that world, I think, I don't, I actually don't think this, the Simpsons are still on the air because of meme culture. I think they're still on the air because these companies like Fox now owned by Disney are so desperate for, uh, Things that have brand awareness that they'd rather ride something into the ground until it's just fully dead exploded rather than leave any, [00:40:00] any, like pennies on the ground.

Uh, potential pennies

Dotta: for

Elf: sure. Yeah, yeah. No, I, I totally hear you. I mean, obviously there's still fans of The Simpsons, and maybe a lot of people love the new direction that it's gone in. Um, but just like, yeah, the, the argument that Super Eyepatch Wolf makes in, in this, um, video is just that at the very least, it's, it's what made Simpsons relevant, at least even to younger generations.

And like, you know, ma, I, I imagine there's like a big contingent of quote Simpsons fans who don't even watch the show and who only, um, engage in the, the meme, uh, format of Simpsons. Oh,

Bearsnake: yeah. I mean, SpongeBob is the same thing, right? Like, My son never really watched SpongeBob. He is very aware who SpongeBob is though through meme culture.

Yep. So it keeps it, it keeps it alive for sure. It's very reminiscent of like the, maybe what is the last leg of [00:41:00] web two? And you know, El and I were, were very much a part of this, um, in a previous iteration of our lives, but with like first generation influencers on YouTube who started u using YouTube, um, and remixing pop culture before, um, copyright really sort of got in the, you know, not got in the way but started to purvey through, through YouTube, I mean the remix culture that that's been happening for, for over a decade.

Elf: Yep, yep. For sure. Um, So, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's just, I don't know. The takeaway from me is like, you know what happens when you build a project with that, like, built into it from the beginning, you know, I don't, I don't know the answer, but it's, it's already like showing some very interesting results for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, but, uh, Ze Lasal, you came up and I wanted to, uh, call out your Dream master baby. Super cute. [00:42:00]

Jitcy: Congrats.

Elf: Thank you guys. I appreciate it. She adorable. Very cute. Um,

Dotta: I also want to shout out Hen Boyd. Oh man. Hen Boyd, you've got such a creative family because if I'm not mistaken, you are doing paintings, your wife is doing paintings, and then I think you also sent me, Uh, like some home brew games that you were playing with your kids.

It's still really cool to see all the stuff you guys are creating together. I really love it.

Bearsnake: Yes. And, and working out on Peloton. I think that's the first wizard. Peloton I've

Elf: seen

for sure. Um, Ark me, um, Merlin. Hello? Hey, I was just gonna ask, are we gonna have some kind of event for, uh,

Dotta: for Easter or do you have something planned? [00:43:00]

Elf: We do not have anything planned. Hmm. But, um, we might, that doesn't mean we won't do anything. Right, right. Yeah.

Dotta: Still got some time. Yeah. What did you in mind?

Elf: Uh, no, just, I

Dotta: was thinking maybe like a Easter egg hunt or something like that, you know? Right. Uh, yeah. An egg decorating contest. World egg decorating contest. Yeah, something like that. You know about world rush burning contest. Yeah. Yeah. We could burn another world.

Elf: Very cool. Uh, bam. Hello. Hi. Bam. Bam. What's

Jitcy: going on? What up?

Elf: Um, I just wanted to let all the wis know that I am gonna organize like a lore reading workshop

Jitcy: with one of my

Elf: friends who worked on audio books and, um, Yeah, just wanted to [00:44:00] open that up to everybody, let everyone know, I know quite a few people were interested.

Hit me up on Discord, uh, just to let me know what type of stuff you're interested in learning about, if there's anything specific. Otherwise it'll be more like general, but just wanted to put that

Jitcy: out there for everyone.

Dotta: The idea is like Annunciation audio equipment, like how to prepare that sort of thing.

Elf: Yeah,

Jitcy: so

Elf: she, yeah, so she can help us figure out like, you know, cuz she does some of her own editing and mixing as well, so like, actually like packaging it to the end. But also, I mean, I, I feel like it's more valuable to sort of like, how do you, you know, how do you express these characters in the best way possible?

Like in that lore that I read for Bonzo, oh my God. Like I had to be a man and a woman and it was really hard for me. But I feel like, you know, there's a lot of different like, voice acting techniques that I feel like she'd be able to

Jitcy: help us

Elf: with. Cool. That sounds amazing. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Bam. And we, we love that you're, [00:45:00] you're reading the book of lore.

Ah, it's, it's, it's the best. I'm getting like a lot of anxiety cuz I feel, I see so much lore being written every single day, even once I've passed and I'm just

Jitcy: like, oh my God, how are we gonna do this? It is,

Dotta: I believe in you. The, uh, that's, yeah, it's been really good and I have a tough time kind of like reading through it sometimes.

Maybe we need to change the font, but I feel like, um, I have a much time visualizing it. A much easier time visualizing it when I hear you reading it, so thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, hi Margaret. I see you have your hand up.

Elf: Oh yeah. Hi. Um, I just wanted, I, I, I have two things I wanted to announce. Um, first of all, that I was chatting with Data and Elf, um, and they told me that if you want to have a poem made, uh, and one of the [00:46:00] parchment, uh, That I've been making poems for people, they don't have to necessarily look, uh, like the standard parchment.

So I've had, uh, one, uh, wizard, uh, drew, an awesome piece of line art, uh, that I could include. Um, and I'm going to be designing, uh, getting my pixel art friend, pixel crow to design some cool special limited edition backgrounds. Um, so that's gonna be coming pretty soon. Um, and, uh, watch this space. So, so if you wanna have something different on your parchment, just let me know.

Yes. And I also have a song that I'd love to sing if we're doing any lore on, on W Wednesday today. Oh, great. Yeah. Let, let's, let's put that off. Um, just like, I dunno, a few more minutes. Sure. Um, may, yeah. Maybe we wind, we, uh, we go out with the song. Um, yeah. I, I love when, I love when you sing Margaret for sure.

Um, ZLA Soul, [00:47:00] you've got your hand up. All right. Um, we're trying to finalize

Dotta: plans, uh, for the wizards that are meeting for dinner, uh, at East Denver. So if

Elf: anybody is going reach out to me or bam, bam, either in Discord or on Twitter, you can DM us. It's fantastic. And then the stickers arrived in the mail too, so that happened.

Okay,

Dotta: great. Very cool. That's great. Yeah, we wanna be able to send up more stickers. I actually am, like, I have an idea for like a page on the website where you can like generate your own sticker sheets. I mean, we have, uh, like the one that was in the merch box, but I wanna be able to like randomize it. So, uh, yeah, I'll work on that and, you know, we can send it up soon.

Uh, hi. Bam. Bam. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

Jitcy: No, I, I didn't, I did it on accident. Ignore me.

Elf: Oh, okay. That's fine. So yeah, we, I, I, I told Jisu that he would be allowed to read Laura today. Um, so let's do JI'S lore and then we'll go out with Margaret's song. [00:48:00]

Dotta: Yeah, I want to, um, I want to, uh, like answer a couple of questions.

There were a couple of questions on the, uh, on Discord that I wanted to address. Sure, yeah, go for it. If we could do those. Um, yeah, so s PZ asked the question about, uh, there's a few questions about Warriors and they say, you know, what are the ratio of warriors relative to wizards? Will they be companions?

Are there orks, elves, dwarf types? Um, and then, you know, some other people ask like, are wizard races like Cobalts? Are they integrated into Warriors? Please tease us, is what they said. So, um, yeah, let me talk, uh, smidge about Warriors. I'll let LF talk of smidge about Warriors. Um, you know, for me, I think that the Warriors drop will, it'll be a little bit bigger than Wizards, but probably not so much bigger that it's like ridiculous.

So, um, I'm thinking that it will be like, Somewhere between [00:49:00] 12,000 to, I, I would be surprised to do 15,000, which for me right now, in this moment, that would be the absolute max. And even that would depend. Um, so there will be more warriors than wizards. And I think it really depends on kind of, um, we're planning on it being post land sale.

I'll tell you what, all this talk of kind of like, um, meme culture and sort of like bottom up content generation and like commissions and art and lore, um, it's, it's. I feel that we, we've, we want to build like this, a serious mainline work. And for me, a big part of that will be like the show. So we've already signed a deal to develop a show with tit Mouse, but you know, the cost for an episode at the level that we want to do is somewhere around like a a million and a half to maybe as much as 2 million per episode.

So for like a, you know, six to eight episode season, we're talking about [00:50:00] something like 15 million. Um, you know, we'll talk about this kind of as like a group and as a community, but like one of sort of my personal sort of feelings and thinkings is that like, I would love to structure warriors in such a way.

That it provides enough funding for a show to be created. There's a lot of, like, in the same way that there's a lot of like weird incentive systems in NFTs, right? And NFT drops. There's also a lot of weird incentive systems in terms of like getting a show created and then getting people to join and then getting it sold, right?

For example, for us to just pay for it all up upfront maybe, um, actually isn't the best like STR strategy. So Bears Snake has done this before and he's been kind of, you know, guiding us. Um, you know, if you just pay for the show all up front now it's actually harder to to sell it because they know your back is against the wall cuz you already paid 15, you know, million to create it.

So I think there's a bit of like a chess game in terms of like how we execute this out. But [00:51:00] really my dream, right? My dream dream is that with Warriors we structure a drop that is significant. It brings in a lot of new like people into the forgotten rooms community. And then also let's, I'll say this carefully, it provides enough money.

To get us a seat at the table and a good negotiating position to get a show created. And then also to get a show sold. So Tip Mouse, for example, has a first look deal with Netflix on their adult animation. That doesn't mean that like if we pay for a show, Netflix will run it automatically. Like there's still sort of like a shopping process and um, you know, whatever.

There's a whole rigamarole, uh, to really make that work. But in my mind, like imagine how amazing it would be if we could do like Warriors Drop, say this summer for example, it provides enough money that we can kick off that process to start a show. It's still a couple of years out before anyone would ever see it, but still, we'll still all want a Wizard show to exist in a couple of years from now.

So, I dunno, that wasn't actually answering any of your questions [00:52:00] about the collection, but just sort of like telling you my thinking about, um, you know, warriors and, and how we're, how we're thinking about it. I dunno, did you wanna add anything there? Yeah,

Elf: uh, I'll just quickly add on the Warrior thing there.

There's. There's two reasons we would do actually more warriors. Um, one is a lower reason. It's just in, in the fantasy genre, there's always more warriors than wizards. There's a power dynamic. The wizards are elite. I always wanna make sure they're elite. Um, that comes in like having smaller numbers. Um, secondly, we are building a game slash metaverse.

Um, we need more people with an n a unique NFT to populate that metaverse. Therefore we need way more characters. Um, so there's a lower reason and, uh, I guess a utility reason that we're doing more lawyers.

Bearsnake: Also, just to, just to add on. I think

Elf: we lost you bear. Oh, you cut out there?

Dotta: [00:53:00] Can you guys hear

Bearsnake: me? Can you

Elf: hear me? Barely. Barely. Yep. Barely.

Dotta: Of

Bearsnake: course. So some of that rigmarole, I can hear you some of that, some of that RGA river roll is actually finding someone who sees what we all see collectively in, in this world. And so part of that is, is finding someone who can work with us to be what, what we call in the industry, like a showrunner, someone who's like run shows, they hire writers, they, they've gone through the process, they know the scripts and, and Elph and I have both done that on the executive side and on the writer writing side.

But it, it's interesting, right, because it goes back to what you were talking about Elph is, is like leading with, hey, this is an N F T project isn't necessarily the most conducive to finding someone. Um, but the person who will end up getting that role should be someone who feels at [00:54:00] home on Wizard Wednesdays, who feels at home making lore.

And it's, it's just, it's been an interesting process talking to people. Um, because the only person, the only type of personality that, that could help lead this charge with us is someone who's cut from the same cloth as, as the cult. Um, and, you know, they're harder to find than you would think.

Elf: Yes, they are.

Um, cool. So we only have, I don't know, a little bit of time left. Doda, do you wanna jump to Jisu or do you wanna do a few more questions? We can run late if we, we need, if we need to. No, no, let's do TSU

Dotta: and then Margaret and then we can be done.

Elf: Fantastic. And I'm just gonna say Jisu sent me his lore, um, earlier in the week, and it is great.

I'll, I'll make more comments about it. But, um, without further ado, uh, JTK.

Jitcy: Hey everybody, can you hear me?

Elf: Yes, we can. Hey, JTK.

Jitcy: Cool. So I, I made a script. It's about, it's eight pages, which should run about eight minutes. So I'm gonna copy it into [00:55:00] the, into the discord too, for people to follow along, because reading scripts is, it helps to maintain it, um, if you want to, but you can just listen to me as well.

But hearing a script red is a little bit different than lore, so it has lower elements. And it's actually funny that we're in the, the Thirsty Wizard, because this takes place in the tavern. We're trolling in another character, but, and sorry, my voice is hoarse. I got Covid today. There's the view, the Google drive for it.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna read, um, I have more nerves right now than I've ever had in competition of eSports, and that says something. So, um, I'll start it off. Um, exterior, wilderness. Wilderness Night. Snowfall, a set of feet crunch on fresh snow. Big pause, mimic each step close behind Zeppelin and Kera. Wind.

Wind runner gaze forward exotic flowers filled Kara's hair, a case of camouflage and design A staff taller than her. Doubled as a walking stick, A mysterious blade under her cloak. On top of the staff at a was sparkling with light Zeppelin. A huge husky with brown fur and blue eyes. The two stand together at the hip in the [00:56:00] distance.

A small tavern. The crackle of fire and flames are the only thing visible. Kira turns away from the tavern, begins walking into the dark. Zeppelin pulls on Kira's clothes with his teeth plops down, Kira. Maybe another night we have a long Trek, Zeppelin barks. Kira Zeppelin, quiet Kira's. Eyes dart across shadows, Zeppelin barks once more.

Zeppelin. This isn't the time we hear. Laughter. Zeppelin stares at Kira firmly pressing his snout against her hand. Holding it there. Kira rolls her eyes. Neil's eyes level was Zeppelin. Kira fine. I would. I could go for a brew. 10 minutes tops. They begin their walk towards the tavern, halfway between the tavern and them as a wizard.

Cold down as luck. Cold wizard put please. Can you help me? The wizard reaches out with a wizard hand, a lock it. Clenched Zeppelin begins walking towards the cold wizard. Kira whistles. Kira. No Zeppelin. You remember last time Kiran Zeppelin walked past the Wizard. Zeppelin looks back while they continue on interior.

The tavern night bottles remnants, things of mystery. Jelly donuts fill the shelves. Wizards gather in the [00:57:00] corner and at the tavern. Countertops whispers fill the air. Unlit except for a fire pit six feet wide, which is being tended to by one wizard. Fire wizard. He fumo a phlegm extends from a wand bolstering the fire.

A small cobalt screws around the tavern, filling flags and chick. Flags and chatting to those who will give him an ear. He glides across the tavern. Hands filled on the brink of running into everything and anything, but never does unnoticed. Kira and Zeppelin stand in the door. Frame another dog in the corner gives a small growl.

More than half the tavern is uninterested and continues drinking. The cobalt suddenly approaches, um, appears next to them. Kira flinch is in surprise. The cobalt flinch is because she flinch is putting up his dukes and bouncing off his tiptoes. The cobalt stands in a strange boxing stance. Random cobalt Greetings.

Sorry, you caught me by surprise. The cobalt puts his fist down and relaxes. Kira youn up on me. Random cobalt, right? Apologies. Ghosty Toro of the phase and name and drinking is the game. What are you having, Kira? I don't know. Trollin nonsense. First time we'll just drink for free. [00:58:00] Kira looks around the room with trained eyes.

Trollin. Don't mind them. They're harmless. And in about. Troll's eyes suddenly turn pitch black, then back to normal. Trollin. Six minutes and 23 seconds all will change. Several wizards in the tavern smack their stabs on the floor and Echo Troll is now behind Kira and slowly pushing her towards the Bar.

Zeppelin joins in the effort. Cholon walks behind the counter. His head only visible GI sits at a bar stool on the edge of the row. Kira, thank you. What do you have? What will you have to drink? Troll plops a flag and fill with cobalt Kool-Aid on the counter. Trollin the one and only cobalt Kool-Aid. I wouldn't drink too much though that has imported straight from Goblin town.

Kira picks up the drink and puts the flag in in front of Zeppelin. One sniff blank. Eyes safe. Kira brings the drink up to her lips. She wins and does not drink from the flag. Stashed from the wizards slammed the wood floor. Kira's attention snaps to the gathering of wizards making noise. Trollin, what brings you to the cavern?

Kira looks back. Troller is now standing on the countertop. [00:59:00] Kira, I hear you have some decent a trollin laughs. Trollin. You might be the first wizard to ever say that. A small ooze rolls and jumps across the countertop, but leaves no trail, not ooze. A blue fire makes up the small creature. Jasper floats to the shoulder of troll and perches.

A small, familiar filled with mystery unknown to all except Trollin. Jasper's eyes suddenly turn pitch black. Trollin laughs and looks. Kira Jasper's bds. Return to form Trollin this year is my dear friend Jasper. He says, you look funny, Kira Strange coming from a moving campfire, ISAR, um, Jasper jumps from troll's shoulder towards Zeppelin mid-air.

Kira pulls a blade out from under her cloak and meets the creature before the blade can cut. Jasper. The creature teleports past the blade and lands on Zeppelin's head with ease. A tail wag Jasper NUS content during her moment of being distracted. Troll and teleports behind. Kira Dagger pushed the back of her neck.

Trolling blades don't work on Jasper, but you on the other hand, different story. A stir from the crowd of wizards. A few cloaks lifted from heads, small exchanges, [01:00:00] trolling waves, his hand in the air. Another slam of staphs filled the tavern. Trollin, poorly placed blade, but an accident agreed ke attracts your blades slowly, troll and teleports back to the countertop.

Kira looks to Zeppelin. The Husky's face remains blank and idle. Trollin, no worries. You wouldn't be the first and you won't be the last you have. Come on an interesting night, Kira. I don't know how it could be possibly get more interesting. Trollin begins tapping his foot on the countertop. A small chair fills the air.

Trollin points to the flag. In front of Kira Trollin. Wanna find out? We see Kira ponder the situation, troll and the strange A in front of her, her hand inches towards the flag, and she stops. Trollin stops tapping his foot. The tavern. Falls into a hush beat. Suddenly her hand takes the flag in and downs the drink all in one motion, troll and smiles from ear to ear, troll, and starts slamming his foot on the countertop.

This time, the tavern erupts with noise. Um, Kira focuses on keeping the ale down once again. She is stunned by the movement across the [01:01:00] tavern. Candles in the corner of the tavern become lit. Hoods fall, familiars come into sight, and wizards are illuminated. The banging continues. The crowd now sets a beat with their stabs and feet.

A festivity begins to take form. Trollin welcome one and welcome all. Accept you nasty goblins. Laughter. Cheers. Wizards begin to cr to crowd closer. Trollin jumps from ground to counter. He sing chance and fills up multiple flags of cobalt colloid. While doing so Trollin, a new wizard has made it to our beloved tavern.

Treat her well. Flags make up his hands, arms and feet as he juggles too many. For any sane wizard, trollin throws flags to onlookers. Trollin. I'm sure a lot of you remember your first night here, trollin chuckles. Or maybe not. Laughter. Cheers. Troll and collapse his hands. No mere clap. Force. Silence. A spell fills the air.

Voice suspended. Tonight, we forget someone idle minds for we never know when the end is near. If I go far away, I'll always remember your cheer. So drink with me on sailor's feet until the sun rises. Those who dance, please do not fear. You will never be forgotten. [01:02:00] The spell of fizzles. Easing the tab, TAVR into normality.

Music begins playing filled with harmony and tempo. Patrons return to their beat in conversation. Trollin jumps and lands next to Kira and extends a hand. Trollin. Do you wish to dance? Other wizards spring to life with dance and laughter. Slosh of flag. Ass clink of metal. Arms. Find shoulders, the drunk.

Find walls. Familiars come out from below cloaks. Dogs and cats wander away from hips and snakes lither out from hats. An electric moment filled with magic music and dance. The tavern comes to life. Kira, but I don't know how troll and shrugs. Neither do I. Trollin grabs Kira's hand and pulls her into the crowd next to the fire pit.

They glide across the tavern. Wizards make way with their every move. They find themselves shoulder to shoulder with the other wizards. One wizard takes his hat off and plops it onto Kira's head as they sway and dance. Kira laughs for the first time that night, trollin. Now, will you tell me what brings you to this tavern?

Kira scans the crowd, Kira A friend Kira looks near the crowd and finds Zeppelin runs to him. She pushes aside animals and wizards. She softly pulls his tail and raises her [01:03:00] eyebrow. She is met with a lick. They stare at one another. Kira collides her fist together twice. Zeppelin hops with excitement. Kira runs to a clearing a few steps away from the crowd.

Zeppelin runs straight at Kira full sprints. She rolls backwards. A group of wizards notice the collision, quote unquote. Kira responds with a lunge. Zeppelin a jump. Kira Rolls Zeppelin. A trot. More wizards begin to take notice. A dance, A dance only known to Kira and Zeppelin. They begin to engulf the crowd's attention the tavern watches and Oz, wizards and Husky move in perfect harmony.

This goes on for minutes. Both Kira and Zeppelin danced. Their chaotic dance filled creativity and muscle memory form from a thousand previous duets. Their dance slows down, breaking the trends, and they return to the festivities. They are met with applause, cobalt, koolaid splashes through the air. Trollin walks back behind the counter and starts cleaning mugs.

Jasper rolls around on the countertop. Jasper's eyes go pitch black Trollin to Jasper. Yeah, she might be all right. Exterior Outside the tavern night, Kira sits on the snow Zeppelin paces nearby. Kira's buzzed. Kira spots the cold wizard In the distance, she looks around knowing she will find no [01:04:00] one. She stares the Zeppelin.

A small smile forms on her face. Kira, I get it now. Zeppelin, Kira begins walking towards the wizard. Halfway there. We notice the cold wizard isn't moving. Kira picks up the pace, which turns into a full sprint. Kira slides next to the cold wizard. Kira. Hey. Hey. Wake up. The cold wizard isn't moving. Kira, no, no, no.

Panic sets in. Kira on on her knees. Hold the cold wizard. Not knowing what to do. Kira help. Nothing. Kira. Finicky looks around a hand clenched finds Kira's hand cold wizard. Take th this his hands. Unc Unclenched revealing a locket. They're going to be All right. Hold on. Cold wizard, take it. Carrot takes a small Locke.

Lock it. I'm so sorry. This is my fault. I'm going to go get help. Seven lays down in the snow cold wizard. No, my time has come. I'm merely ask one thing. Kira, anything. What? The cold wizard starts to, starts to fade. We don't know if he can muster his words cold wizard. You must find the spinx. Kira looks to the small lockin in one of her hands, her gaze returns to the cold wizard.

It is too late. The cold wizard draws his last breath and [01:05:00] dies in her arms. Kira closes her eyes beat. Kira lays the cold wizard down on the ground. She punches the snow. Her attention moves to the locket. A simple looking lock it. It would never stand out at a jewelry store. Kira turns the Locke over in her hand and and prizes it open.

A burst of magic is escaped from the Locke. Pushing Kira. End Zeppelin Back at. A few feet. The lock at Levitates midair. A second burst ruins with an ember glow appear overhead. A booming voice shouts the following. You will search far and wide, but most likely never find me. I keep what you love. There's only one way of getting it back.

Time is now your enemy. The the Locke slams shut and drops to the earth. At the same moment. A vortex appears above Zeppelin. It begins pulling the husky in. We see Kira notice a strange sound, but confused Zeppelin, whims. We see a terror set in. She has 180 and sees Zeppelin being pulled into the vortex. A scream explodes from Kira.

No, Kira dives at the vortex. Her hand barely misses Zeppelin's paw. The vortex disappears outta sight, along with Zeppelin. Kira lays there in the snow crying, cut to a shot of the, in the taverns exterior through the [01:06:00] front door. We see dancing and celebration. We continue to zoom out a fleeting scene. We move into the darkness until laughter inflamed fades.

The night we see Kira in the snow alone and crying and

Elf: Wow. So did, did, did Zeppelin get sucked into the vortex? That's. That's like the, uh, it's that gate in worldwide web three where you, you, you bounce back and forth between the tavern. Is that the, is that the vortex? It's a vortex that came out of the locket.

Right. Okay. And then my second question is, did she actually dance with her dog or was she just drunk and she imagined it? No, she

Jitcy: actually did. I mean, the whole, the whole concept was that like she's kind of a wanderer out in the world and she only has this dog who z diplomats her, like her, her like bass.

Right. And so like, they do these things that would be like a dance out in the snow or something that done a thousand times.

Elf: So. Got it. Got it. But it sounded like, um, trollin was like trying to hit on her.

Jitcy: [01:07:00] I mean, maybe, maybe in the back of my hi, my mind subconsciously, I wrote that into Troll and I have no idea.

But

Elf: yeah, it sounded like, like troll everyone. It was like trying to like, I don't know, like, like move in, make a move. And then the, the dog button was like, Nope, I'm gonna dance with her. Um, it was

Dotta: great. I read along the whole time. I want, I want to turn this into a movie now.

Elf: Yeah, no, it, it, it is great. I, I love how much, uh, like, just, just like real character development went, went into these characters.

They, they've got a lot of humanity. Um, they really feel alive. Yeah.

Jitcy: Appreciate it. I mean, sorry it took, took so long, but I mean, I guess the only thing I say about Trollin is that I really act through him. Just try to include people into what we're doing. And I came out and onto my script and. I guess it's less of hitting on and more, I'm trying to encourage to be a part of what we're doing, um, if anything.

So thanks for listening.

Elf: Yeah. And then, and then my final favorite thing is that, um, that whole story is, is, uh, based on, uh, a true story that, that all that actually happened in the Wizard [01:08:00] Tavern. Right? Yeah, of course.

Awesome. Um, cool. Well, we are over, but, um, and I, it looks like a lot of you had things to say, but we told, uh, Margaret that she would, um, sing us out, um, Uh, matrix. Did you wanna say something real quick though before we go to Margaret's song? Yes, thank you. I'll be quick. Well, first I wanna say like, I really enjoy hearing people read the lore like in bam, bam space.

Like, it feels like all warm and cozy, like I'm a kid, like having stories read to me. Definitely. And I just really like hearing you guys read your stories. I also wanted to mention that I made some art that involves my wizards and it's kind of naughty, so I won't pin it up here, but I think, I think some of you might like, uh, appreciate it or find it funny, so yeah.

Excellent. Thank you Na. Um, and uh, [01:09:00] Laura Punk slash Margaret.

Jitcy: Hey,

Elf: thanks very much and I do highly recommend you check out NA's uh, art cuz it's awesome and I think I have all the research to like it. Um, I'm gonna sing a little song. Uh, thank you very much. Um, and it's just one of these things I kind of write and paste in the secret tower chat in the Discord and it started as a poem, but then I realized it was a song and it's about magic gone wrong, which is my favorite topic.

So here we are. In the dark of late

Jitcy: December,

Elf: I had practiced every spell I could learn from. Half.

Jitcy: Remember, by the lone

Elf: midnight bell Spirits offered me a flavor of the [01:10:00] result in the dark of late December with the bitter cold, and I wonder why it's so cold and I wonder why it's so cold, and I wonder why it's so cold.

And I wonder why it's so cold when naroon of shadow backs listen you with fear of the world's weel reckon half a blank from now. And here I knew that I was for, to the darkness at my birth. [01:11:00] Some things are already broken. Far more trouble than we worth, and I wonder why it's so cold and I wonder why it's so cold, and I wonder why it's so cold.

And I wonder why it's so cold and so wind blew, passed my transom whistle in through new domain. I

Jitcy: was newly bold

Elf: and handsome in my favorite magic brain raising on enormous power. Nothing further. I remember all burnt down [01:12:00] and half

the of late December.

Jitcy: Thank you. Oh, thank you.

Elf: Thank,

thank you, Margaret. You know, I, I just wonder are there any other Twitter spaces that have people singing? Oh

Dotta: man. Only if Margaret's

Elf: there. Thanks so much for letting me sing it. Um, I just wanted to share it cuz I don't think you can put audio in the book of Lori yet,

Dotta: so I thought I would just, we are adding that.

We are adding that and we'll make sure we can get it in.

Jitcy: Yeah. Love it. All right. Thanks very, very much guys. Thank

Dotta: you.

Elf: Yes. And thank you to everybody who attended our Wizard Wednesday. Uh, this has been Elf and Dota [01:13:00] and Margaret, our singing bra, our singing bard, uh, Matsui, bam bam. Bear Snake Zla Solan, his dream master baby, uh, Zeppelin, the dancing dog, Jisu, and the famous Tanya Del Rio channeling out from the quantum downs.

Good night everybody.